SR HFTs

stevebythebay said:
I've been a very happy camper having installed Level 3 HFT's in my listening room, along with FEQ. Does what has been claimed. I've a relatively narrow room (~13ft wide) though about 30ft in length. The things really do expand the soundstage and reduce room effects on the sound. Adding other SR products like PowerCell and active interconnects have definitely reduced the so called "noise floor" the system, allowing me to hear much more of the details I'd been missing, especially in the quiet passages and decays of instruments and vocals.

Maybe someday science and engineering, along with a growing understanding of the ear/brain, will help to explain why Ted's stuff works. For now, it simply makes the listening experience more immersive and realistic than ever.
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How can someone invent it, design it, and build it if they don't know how it works?
 
stevebythebay said:
Mother Nature doesn't always immediately reveal her secrets.
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You missed my point. I don't think it was accidental that these products were designed, manufactured, and brought to market. Ted must understand why it works because he is the man behind it right?
 
SR's products seem to be primarily associated with the lead designer, Ted Denney's, focus on electrical and acoustic issues. I'm not fully up to speed on SR's history, though it would seem to have begun in the cable area of the business. Patents seem to have begun with their Tesla products (see their site on the Tesla history).
Note that an Edison-like trial and error evolved into workable solutions/patent for active shielding, etc.

Years later the ART product seems to have been the result of an accidental discovery: on a sabbatical visit to a Buddhist temple he noticed the effect of singing bowels on acoustics within the room. He figured this effect might be used for room treatments. Then there's Quantum Tunneling, electromagnetic cell technology for PowerCell products, and lately the HFT/FEQ and follow-up UEFT (updated bullets) using the technology from the HFT. I've not seen the actual patent applications, so I cannot speak to their basis (and knowing the patent process is subject to many questions as to their review/basis in reality).

Guess I'm one who simply tries things. If they have a positive effect on my audio experience I don't need an immediate technical explanation. The dudes who discovered the wheel and fire got lucky. Finding things in nature that ameliorate medical problems, often baffle scientists for some time, before they figure out the mechanism. I'm not one who has ever thought that if it cannot be measured, there must be no impact. Forget the specs and just listen, I say!
 
jap said:
After all of the negative comments about SRs and their products that you've posted here, WBF and AA, why would you think SR would send you any products under these conditions?
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Simply because if they had any integrity and honestly believed that this product works, they would do it.
 
mdkim said:
Ted visited to install a ton of these little suckers in my room (and on my gear). Love them. Try them; you'll be surprised.
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Do you care to say exactly how many "a ton of these suckers" is?

As they begin to approach 25% of the actual wall, floor and ceiling area of your room, I could become a believer.
 
Hello from Falun Sweden.
I´m astounded how these small things can change (read better) the sound of a pretty good setup, that I have. (MSB stack for digital,MSB amplifier, Marten Coltrane speakers, AMG TT, TEAD Mastergroove phono amp)
I have only the level 1 but, visited yesterday a friend and we set his up to level 4. The room almost totally disappeared.
Then we tried different settings on the speakers when I sat in sweetspot and my friend did the work… baffling
They DO work.
I have also done level 1 for another friend. He asked what I was doing measuring his wall.
His room has never sounded better. He kept the set…
I will upgrade my room during the next weeks.

Tero
 
GaryProtein said:
I can explain it but you wouldn't like it.
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GaryProtein said:
Do you care to say exactly how many "a ton of these suckers" is?

As they begin to approach 25% of the actual wall, floor and ceiling area of your room, I could become a believer.
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mdkim said:
"I can explain it but you wouldn't like it."
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stevebythebay said:
. . . . Maybe someday science and engineering, along with a growing understanding of the ear/brain, will help to explain why Ted's stuff works. . . .
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OK, I told you you wouldn't like it. Here it is:

It doesn't work.

IT DOESN'T DO A FREAKING THING except take your money. Doesn't that bother you? I wouldn't buy anything from that company of they were the last one on earth.

I cannot believe supposedly intelligent people all over the world are falling for this absolute crap!

It's the emperor's new clothes. I suppose it's cool to jump on the latest trend, but it's a fraud and so many of you are falling for it. These things are 8 mm in diameter and 8mm tall. (That's less than a third of an inch.) Are you all out of your minds? You can probably fit close to one thousand (do the math) of these into a square foot of wall/floor or ceiling space. It would take TENS OF THOUSANDS of these to make any effect in a moderate sized room.

I did visit a local Ayre/Mc/Krell/Maggy/ARC/Classe and more dealer today and he laughed. He said any effects were psychological. At least I know he's an honest dealer.

You guys should spend more time listening to music than perceived changes that don't exist.
 
I'm surprised you actually ventured out of your bubble to visit a dealer. Surely you didn't inconvenience him.

Your world must be awfully dull; after all, you've got everything figured out. Also, apart from owning the best gear in the world, your also the brightest individual. Imagine that :rolleyes:.
 
mdkim said:
I'm surprised you actually ventured out of your bubble to visit a dealer. Surely you didn't inconvenience him.

Your world must be awfully dull; after all, you've got everything figured out. Also, apart from owning the best gear in the world, your also the brightest individual. Imagine that :rolleyes:.
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I'm not making any of those claims.

Just remember. The person who saw the truth, that the emperor wasn't wearing any clothes was a meek little boy.
 
He fixed it.

We still are free to have an opinion about stuff that we haven't touch. It's up to the reader to evaluate that opinion, I think.
And usually an experienced opinion, unbiased, counts more than one less free? ...Sometimes, not always, it depends, of many things...
 
Ok everyone, lets be civil. This forum will not become like the rest of them. We're better than that !

Gary, you've made your point. Lets move on.
 
GaryProtein said:
These things are 8 mm in diameter and 8mm tall. (That's less than a third of an inch.) Are you all out of your minds? You can probably fit close to one thousand (do the math) of these into a square foot of wall/floor or ceiling space.
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MDP said:
Ok everyone, lets be civil. This forum will not become like the rest of them. We're better than that !

Gary, you've made your point. Lets move on.
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I agree . Lets move on.
I hope everyone has functioning bone chains in your middle ears. The ossicles, as they are called, represents three individual bones. The Malleus, Incus and Stapes (latin). They are 7,7mm, 6,5mm and 3,2mm in maximum length.
Without them one can`t hear.
Isn`t it interesting what small things can do for your hearing?
/Tero
 
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