Sonus Faber Lilium

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To sit below the Aida in their line-up, Lilium is something else. Are Sonus Faber still as magical as their legacy as they birth new direction?

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Somewhere in between Aida & Stradivari, but where? Who has heard them sing?
 
The white leather is a progressively daring colour, apparently just for the Munich Show.

Seems to be less wood, more alloys & glass....
 
Thanks Steve. I'd love to hear them. I understand they can be tuned to the room. Have not heard much about them since the launch but hopefully reviews will be coming.
 
I never cared much for the new Aida design. They must sound pretty darn good or they wouldn't have gone forward with the project, but it seems that the emphasis is on design here. I find the showroom photo quite odd with the ultramodern speakers and the totally retro ARC amp.

The white leather is interesting though.
 
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I hope they look better in the flesh & sound fabulous. IMO the glass top is a gimmicky finish.
 
Don't like the glass with the transfer either. Looks cheap & gimmicky. If they need a driver there, we don't have to see it. There are other vendors that have concealed drivers behind beautiful finishes.
 
Has anyone actually heard these speakers? The woofer on top is a very unique and daring design to say the least.


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Not my cup of tea in the looks department either. I hope SF doesn't lose its way. their designs are getting to be more about the looks than anything else and even on that front I am not impressed by their latest efforts. As mentioned above, it feels like they are trying too hard. Since their industrial designer came up with the form factor/looks of the ARC Galileo series, I feel the same way about that as well. SF had very simple, elegant look and form factors in their speakers with the use of warmish woods and leather, and now they are using metal alloys, and glass and carbon fiber and 24K gold leaf and white leather...it's a bit much and antitheitical to the simple elegance that they uniquely commanded in the design department. Similarly, ARC had a classic laboratory equipment industrial look that characterized the brand since Bill Johnson founded the company and since being bought by Fine SOunds group and having Livio Cucuuzza (SF's industrial designer) come into the picture, you get the Galileo series which is likely going to put off many core ARC loyalists. Anyway, I am done with my rant. :D
 
Not my cup of tea in the looks department either. I hope SF doesn't lose its way. their designs are getting to be more about the looks than anything else and even on that front I am not impressed by their latest efforts. As mentioned above, it feels like they are trying too hard. Since their industrial designer came up with the form factor/looks of the ARC Galileo series, I feel the same way about that as well. SF had very simple, elegant look and form factors in their speakers with the use of warmish woods and leather, and now they are using metal alloys, and glass and carbon fiber and 24K gold leaf and white leather...it's a bit much and antitheitical to the simple elegance that they uniquely commanded in the design department. Similarly, ARC had a classic laboratory equipment industrial look that characterized the brand since Bill Johnson founded the company and since being bought by Fine SOunds group and having Livio Cucuuzza (SF's industrial designer) come into the picture, you get the Galileo series which is likely going to put off many core ARC loyalists. Anyway, I am done with my rant. :D

Let's give the Galilleo series to grow in us first.
My set are coming in the followings weeks, let's see how it behaves
Compared with my REF10/REF150

:)
 
Nelson...I am not talking about their audio performance. That is still handled (thank God :D) by ARC's audio designers/engineers. I meant simply in the looks department. I am very much looking forward to your thoughts about the new Galileo series with the KT150 tube in the power amp compared to the Ref 10/150 combo :thumbsup:
 
I also loved the look better of the ref40 instead of the ref10 but it grows inside me
Now is cool the front panel.
Is like my French Bulldog, that's an ugly dog the first time you see it in person but after a while it looks cool and handsome ,hahahahhah
 
I also loved the look better of the ref40 instead of the ref10 but it grows inside me
Now is cool the front panel.
Is like my French Bulldog, that's an ugly dog the first time you see it in person but after a while it looks cool and handsome ,hahahahhah

:D :thumbsup:
 
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Who I'm kidding, that's an ugly dog
Hahaha
 
Not my cup of tea in the looks department either. I hope SF doesn't lose its way. their designs are getting to be more about the looks than anything else and even on that front I am not impressed by their latest efforts. As mentioned above, it feels like they are trying too hard. Since their industrial designer came up with the form factor/looks of the ARC Galileo series, I feel the same way about that as well. SF had very simple, elegant look and form factors in their speakers with the use of warmish woods and leather, and now they are using metal alloys, and glass and carbon fiber and 24K gold leaf and white leather...it's a bit much and antitheitical to the simple elegance that they uniquely commanded in the design department. Similarly, ARC had a classic laboratory equipment industrial look that characterized the brand since Bill Johnson founded the company and since being bought by Fine SOunds group and having Livio Cucuuzza (SF's industrial designer) come into the picture, you get the Galileo series which is likely going to put off many core ARC loyalists. Anyway, I am done with my rant. :D

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Very well said Cyril.
 
I had the opportunity to hear these paired up with the new G Series AR products at the Paragon event Thursday evening. They sounded pretty darn good. These speakers are not baby Aida's nor are they grown up Futura's. Although the overall exterior is familiar to other SF products the execution is unique to this product. I thought they were a bit faster than Aida's but lack the expansive sound you get from those since they do not have the rear firing drivers.
 
Slot loading of the bass?

Doesn't appear that the woofer is close enough to the ground plane to be considered slot loaded. Even if it was, it wouldn't be a bad thing if properly designed...it can be a good way to add low end bass response without adding more size to the enclosure.
 
Doesn't appear that the woofer is close enough to the ground plane to be considered slot loaded. Even if it was, it wouldn't be a bad thing if properly designed...it can be a good way to add low end bass response without adding more size to the enclosure.

Makes me wonder how they would perform on raised wooden floors or timber floors with joists.

I heard them driven by McIntosh MC601s. They sounded OK and the potential was there but the demo room was a let down. I wasn't captivated or entranced given the conditions. The dealer said that the Liliums are hungry for current and that MC601s sometimes cannot keep up causing the sound to thin and flatten out, dropping their spatial dimension. I was astounded by that remark. In somewhat disbelief, I would want to garner another experienced opinion of their power handling and performance characteristics. He also added that the MC2301s would be a poor amplifier match for the Liliums... So basically, he didn't really want to sell them to me.
 
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