kennyb123
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I just had a look at your listing and that lead me to start reading the review link you included. Your listing price strikes me as a steal given what this thing can do. I hadn’t realized that QR/BB was part of this as well. My
Shunyata Typhon T2
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I just had a look at your listing and that lead me to start reading the review link you included. Your listing price strikes me as a steal given what this thing can do. I hadn’t realized that QR/BB was part of this as well. My
The ground terminal is only on the power supply, so that’s all I grounded.
I unfortunately grounded a few components at the same time - I didn’t check the difference from each component (I should have);
Right, but we know filtering is additive when the Denali and T2 are connected (Richard confirmed this). Are they additive in both directions? In other words, is the QR/BB & NIC filtering out of the T2 taking into account what’s in the Denali? Because we know that’s how it works the other way (with components plugged into the Denali).
kennyb123
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The amp would have one additional cord between itself and the wall if plugged into the Denali (the umbilical). DTCD is most important with amps, plugging amps into the T2 would have an advantage. QR/BB is per outlet and not additive. The other thing to keep in mind is that amps dump a lot of noise on the AC, and if looks like there might actually be more filtration between the amps and everything else if the amps are plugged into the T2.
What you wrote makes complete sense to me, thanks.
Now, Shunyata says QR/BB modules are indeed additive. They recommend amp into Denali; but also trying into the T2 directly and seeing which is best.
I can obviously do that, but wanted to know if there’s a clear recommended path, and it’s not clear that there is.
(Have you also tried pulling a tight fitting plug from a Denali, with the Cable Cradle in place? Very difficult, as it’s hard to grasp the plug…! The Kondo “Avocado?” Silver cord I am using for the DarTZeel amp is very tough to pull out… I will have to remove the Cradle next time.)
Now, Shunyata says QR/BB modules are indeed additive. They recommend amp into Denali; but also trying into the T2 directly and seeing which is best.
I can obviously do that, but wanted to know if there’s a clear recommended path, and it’s not clear that there is.
(Have you also tried pulling a tight fitting plug from a Denali, with the Cable Cradle in place? Very difficult, as it’s hard to grasp the plug…! The Kondo “Avocado?” Silver cord I am using for the DarTZeel amp is very tough to pull out… I will have to remove the Cradle next time.)
If you think that is difficult try removing a US/AU adapter from a Denali.
kennyb123
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I have not had a problem getting cords out. I believe doing a little wiggling can help work the cord out without putting too much strain on it.
Puma Cat
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Yes, they sure as h*ll do! Much of the noise comes from the full wave bridge rectifiers of the amps themselves...particularly during demanding or dynamic passages. And, that noise goes OUT of the amps upstream to contaminate the source components with noise. It's AC...the current goes BOTH ways. Moreover, the noise is overlaid on TOP of the signal itself, as shown in these examples; it does not hang out way down "in the noise floor"....
I just finished the second session with a Typhon T2. Individual instruments are notably more fleshed out and fuller (not overly bold). Overall dimensionality is improved quite a bit. The dimensionality can be heard with soft passages also. The sound is not just defined by more power. It is of better quality. The space delineation is analogous to that produced by an amp with a very good power supply.
I have used Shunyata power cords for some years. For conditioners, a Denali 6000S V1 was the first Shunyata with a media player, a DAC, and an amplifier plugged into it. Because of the distance to two 20-amp outlets, I used one conditioner. The first revelation happened when the amplifier was separated onto a 2000T on its own circuit. The soundstage expansion must have been more than 10%. The 2000T was later replaced by a 6000S V2, and the 6000S V1 was replaced by another 6000S V2. Through these changes, the improvement could be described as incremental. No aha moment like adding the 2000T was re-experienced. I was happy with two 6000S V2 on separate circuits. Now this Typhon T2 produces another revelation. The T2 must be among the most successful Shunyata products.
For the poster inquiring about an S250 MXV, the feedback above with 2000T is related to an S250. All later configurations are related to an S250 MXV into a 6000S V2 or Typhon T2. The manufacturer probably advises against conditioners because most restrict current. I have not experienced that with QRBB. I heard my dealer's more robust pair of M400s (now M400 MXVs) many times. I am not sure if he has the flexibility to use dedicated lines or the QRBB feature. I do not recall that setup producing the kind of dimensionality. I don't covet M400 MXVs based on the result achieved.
I have used Shunyata power cords for some years. For conditioners, a Denali 6000S V1 was the first Shunyata with a media player, a DAC, and an amplifier plugged into it. Because of the distance to two 20-amp outlets, I used one conditioner. The first revelation happened when the amplifier was separated onto a 2000T on its own circuit. The soundstage expansion must have been more than 10%. The 2000T was later replaced by a 6000S V2, and the 6000S V1 was replaced by another 6000S V2. Through these changes, the improvement could be described as incremental. No aha moment like adding the 2000T was re-experienced. I was happy with two 6000S V2 on separate circuits. Now this Typhon T2 produces another revelation. The T2 must be among the most successful Shunyata products.
For the poster inquiring about an S250 MXV, the feedback above with 2000T is related to an S250. All later configurations are related to an S250 MXV into a 6000S V2 or Typhon T2. The manufacturer probably advises against conditioners because most restrict current. I have not experienced that with QRBB. I heard my dealer's more robust pair of M400s (now M400 MXVs) many times. I am not sure if he has the flexibility to use dedicated lines or the QRBB feature. I do not recall that setup producing the kind of dimensionality. I don't covet M400 MXVs based on the result achieved.
Dizzie
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Am I correct the Typhon T2 was added to a 6000S V2? What equipment was on the combination? My system is split to two walls and two power conditioners. A T2/Denali combination would not have much plugged into it on either wall.
My understanding from Caelin's past and recent postings and the conversation with Shunyata is that it is best to have two dedicated circuits feeding separate power conditioners. I started using two conditioners on two dedicated lines with a 2000T + a 6000S V1 and continued with this setup. My current T2 and 6000S V2 are not connected by an umbilical cord. The T2 feeds a stereo amp and the 6000S V2 feeds a digital media player and the outboard power supply of a DAC. I have found that I can lower the volume by 2 dB and achieve the same satisfaction of a live concert as before. That is a bonus to preserve hearing.
I’m also running a T2 with 3 Meridian DSP 8000/7200SE active speakers and a 6000T V2 on separate circuit for the frontend. I came from 2 Triton V3 on separate circuits.
I put one Triton V3 on my back DSP7200SE speakers, projector and workstation/DAC/Jade-2 headphones. That was a major upgrade.
I did numerous upgrades on the cabling of the system so I can’t attribute all to the change of the powerconditioners. But there is a new level of smoothness and delicacy of the performances as well as grip in the bass. I usually analyse the sound easily but I’m being completely disarmed and just listening to the performances.
I put one Triton V3 on my back DSP7200SE speakers, projector and workstation/DAC/Jade-2 headphones. That was a major upgrade.
I did numerous upgrades on the cabling of the system so I can’t attribute all to the change of the powerconditioners. But there is a new level of smoothness and delicacy of the performances as well as grip in the bass. I usually analyse the sound easily but I’m being completely disarmed and just listening to the performances.
Puma Cat
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I love it when that happens. That's what happened with I installed my Everest, and then again my segmented Altaira system. Then, getting the Lumin P1 just took things to another level.
Dizzie
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It has been over 7 months since the last post on this thread. Does anyone have experience with using the T2 in series with a Denali 6000/S v2?
Dizzie
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7ryder,
Am I correct in interpreting from your equipment list that the combo only powers your amps and subs? If I added a T2 to my Denali it would be powering my front end. That would be an Aurender N20, Bricasti M3, and (summer season) a VAC Master line stage. Only two to three components and the opposite end (front end vs back end) from your application. I am trying to decide if the expenditure is worth it.
Introduction of the T2 product created a lot of initial buzz but not much after that. I am only seeing posts using the T2 for amplifiers not in conjunction with another power conditioner like a Denali. My system is split onto two walls. Amps and speakers (Sound Labs) are on a separate power conditioner.