Shunyata Reference Series V2
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Yes, we have EU models in inventory now. We are working with our EU distributors to get them into the countries. However, as you know the CCP-Virus has many businesses and entire countries closed down. So contact your country's Shunyata distributor please and ask them what they can do. Look on our website the list of distributors.
Hi Caelin,
Is the major and only difference between a Sigma NR and Sigma NR V2 the new VTX silver conductor?
Outside of the physical appearance of the cable.
Additionally, do you feel that it will be worthwhile for me to try out the Sigma XC to replace an original Sigma HC on my Denali 6000T to the wall?
In the previous generation, many felt that it wouldn't be worthwhile given the cost to upgrade from an original Sigma HC to a Sigma EF. For conditioner to wall connection.
However, was curious if the leap this generation might be worth a try.
The new V2 cables I'm sure will be a great success and hope all is well in WA state. Reading the news about COVID-19 :-(
Looking forward to your Denali 8/8000T and its eventual release as well.
Oh Caelin, after two Denali, four Sigma NR and two Alpha NR, I assure you I know who the distribuidor
Yes, I was fairly confident that you would know
The differences between v1 series and v2 series cables include the conductors, connectors and the NR filters.
The most significant change is, of course, the conductors which is the heart and soul of a power cable. Pardon me if I pull content from the brochure:
The NR filters have been improved also supplying better purity of tone and improved transient speed.
And finally, the new connectors are not just beautiful they functionally improve performance.
Well I don't want to put anyone into a panic or anything,
anic: but the new Reference NR v2 Series cables are a major advancement over the equivalent v1 model. The differences are immediately apparent in an A-B comparison. It is not at all subtle.Is it worth upgrading to the Sigma XC? That is a value judgement and only your enjoyment versus pocketbook can answer that. But from an absolute performance perspective -- there is no doubt, none.
You might seek out SCAudiophile. I think he is on this forum. He has a Sigma XC that replaced a Sigma NR v1 on his Triton v3 / Typhon QR rig. He would be a good source of first hand information.
I hope this helps,
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Puma Cat
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Hi Mpd632,
I've been testing the new Sigma XC for about a week now, and in my testing it is ideal as a power cable for power distributors/conditioner e.g. Denalis, Triton V3s, etc. No, wait, It is frickin' amazing as a power cord for power conditioners. :celebrate008_2:
The new Sigma XC (and the new Sigma NR v2) represent signficant improvement over the previous generations Sigma power cords, and in my experience, provide a completely new and "breakthrough" level of improvement.
I'll be posting my review of the new Sigma NR (which COMPLETELY blew my mind) v2 shortly, but let me speak to the new XC:
The new XC is not quite as quiet as the new Sigma NR V2 PC (as you would expect from not having an NR noise filter). Instead it trades off incredible speed, dynamics, quickness for some degree of noise reduction functionality. It has a beautiful crisp and clean musical presentation that reminds me of a medium-format photograph from the 100 megapixel Fujfilm GFX100.
Using the Sigma XC, the presenation is FAST, FAST, FAST and CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN and CRISP, but never edgy, glare-y or strident. Again, think of perfectly sharp photo from the GFX100.
Dynamic Transient Current Delivery (DTCD) is the key functional response for this type of power cord, and the new Sigma XC delivers DTCD at a level of performance that I have, quite simply, never experienced before.
In summing up: for PDs (power distributors), the new Sigma XC sets new performance for this type of power cord. I know that statement might sound familiar from other audio reviews, but let state this again: I have NEVER experienced the degree of improvement from power cords that I've experienced from the new Sigma XC and NR v2 PCs. :disbelief:
For components, the new Sigma NR v2 is gobsmackingly-good. More on that baby shortly. :snicker:
Hope this helps and happy to answer any other questions.
Puma Cat
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Oh, man, you have no idea of how much of a jump this will be....
SCAudiophile
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This a tough act to follow Puma so I will simply note that "YES, ME TOO" on all the points you mention. For added details, the new conductors and connectors
in and off themselves on the Sigma v2 (both types) and Alpha NR v2 (I have been running Alpha NR V2s and Sigma NR v2s for quite a few weeks) are quite
literally a drastic sea change in sound profile overall that have added to Shunyata power cords incredible pacing, transparency, dynamic range, sound stage
accuracy and specificity to AND tonal accuracy AND dimension (as if the foregoing were not enough) over and above the prior generations. This seriously, an
entire new level of play (or playback as the case may be) and the difference to my ears is night and day over the prior generation.
For XC, power conditioners definitely benefit and NR, anything with a digital circuit in it of any kind will quickly show you what this latest generation is made of.
*A word on budget, cost of upgrade, ROI, etc....if for some reason jumping to Sigma NR v2 or XC v2 is not feasible and your sitting at prior Sigma or Anaconda
of any kind, I would heartily recommend jumping up to Alpha V2 if Sigma is not attainable. The 2 Alpha NR V2s I am running now besting the prior Sigma NR (v1) cables
I was using, hands-down, no b.s. Floored me and I'm still amazed at what I heard.
Alpha NR V2 (and XC I would guess) are "the" sweet spot in the line. I have told Caelin on countless occasions that I cannot believe still just what Alpha NR v2 did
in my system and at what is relatively speaking a bargain price.
Puma Cat
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Yup! That sums it up....:celebrate008_2:
I know what the message is regarding powercord into the Triton V3. But did anyone actually had the chance to compare an XC vs Sigma V2 NR into a Triton V3?
Since I use one with multi amps that one seems logical to run XC into but the other one full of electronics mostly digital gear. Wouldnt noise reduction win over absolute current delivery? Is there something I am missing in the picture here?
Since I use one with multi amps that one seems logical to run XC into but the other one full of electronics mostly digital gear. Wouldnt noise reduction win over absolute current delivery? Is there something I am missing in the picture here?
Puma Cat
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No. For a power cord powering a Triton V3, the XC would be the better choice because it has improved DTCD functionality over, say, a Sigma NR V2. While you certainly can power a Triton with a Sigma NR V2 and get superb, excellent performance, the fact of the matter is the XC works and sounds better than a Sigma NR V2 when it comes to powering a PD (power distributor). I've done this comparison directly using Denali V2, and Denali should be very comparable to Triton V3 with respect to powering components (Triton V3 has a more sophisticated *NR grounding* system, but that's an aside to this discussion).
Your Triton V3 will provide sufficient NR for the components plugged into it. If you want to improve this further, put a Shunyata NR PC on each component that is plugged into your Triton V3. This will provide an addtional level of noise reduction from noise coming back out from the component's internal PS. If you have 100% digital components (i.e, there is no D/A conversion), say, a streamer, network bridge, Ethernet switch, FMC, router, music server, use a Venon V14D Digital. If by digital, you mean a DAC or disc player, use a Venom NR-V10 or higher NR PC.
NR PC for components, XC PCs for PDs. There's another post here describing the differences and rationale as how to most effectively use the new NR v2 and XC PCs.
Is the DTCD better on the models without the filters? Due to the noise filter itself limiting DTCD?
Puma Cat
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No, the DTCD is same....
The NR PCs were designed to prevent noise from the components internal power supply from coming back out of the component to be distributed to the rest of the power distribution chain.
There is no reason for a power cord powering a power distributor (PD) to use an NR filter because a power distributor not have a power supply.
So...
XCs for PDs
NRs for components
Understood and agree. I was just confused from this post of yours.
If the conductor and cable is the same and only difference being the NR circuit. Then I assumed the NR circuit in some fashion limited DTCD.
BlueFox
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While I would like to upgrade, being retired has me a bit hesitant about spending money. I would need three Sigma XCs, and three Sigma NRs. That adds up fast.
BlueFox, see it from a positive side, finally the VTX-Ag is here with an improved NR. For me this signals that there will be some real tangible sonic benefits. You could start with one XC and one NR on your frontend, see where it takes you. I did order 2+2 and yes it quickly adds up, perhaps more than a refresh of 4 cables should do.
For me the Sigma Digital V1 didn't have that ease of flow which I got more from my Furutech NCF/DPS4.1 loom on my preamp. I hope that the NR2 will bring that ease as well as fantastic noise reduction, hopefully it will be the best of both worlds.
For me the Sigma Digital V1 didn't have that ease of flow which I got more from my Furutech NCF/DPS4.1 loom on my preamp. I hope that the NR2 will bring that ease as well as fantastic noise reduction, hopefully it will be the best of both worlds.
