Shunyata New Sigma power cords

Very interesting. Component-to-component is the third step in what I think of as the three stages of achieving perfect power, namely: 1) to block all incoming noise to the system from the outside environment without limiting instantaneous current; 2) star ground the entire system with a single isolated ground; and 3) isolate all noise made by each component of the system from propagating back to itself or across the power lines to fellow components.

I have been looking at component-to-component isolation through an all Furutech setup but these Shunyata's look intriguing......
 
I hope the price will below the cost of a kidney or first born child. For now I will live with my current Shunyata. I hope not to accidently hear the Sigma as I know resistance may be futile.
Nick
 
So has anyone tried these yet and how they do they compare to a conventional premium power cable with a Furutech Flux-50 IEC power filter combination hanging off a component?

I am a huge proponent of stage-3 power filtering (component level isolation to distributor, star topology). The Furutech Flux-50 has been the most effective application solution for sensitive HiFi needs for some time now IMO. Similarly, for years, the problem has been addressed in the medical equipment and aerospace industries with products from the likes of Schaffner EMC etc...

We see Shunyata now jumping on board acknowledging that component level pollution is real and in-line filtering is the way to go. Incorporating something similar into their Sigma power cable plug terminations with their 2nd generation Zitron passive circuitry, does it work?

If Shunyata have properly implemented EM filtering into their Zitron plugs along with improved cable shielding to address the problems of associated component power noise injection, then the new line should be a siginificant improvement to their 1st generation Zitron stuff. In particular, the now discontinued Anaconda line which did nothing to help address the problem, being an unshielded cable and susceptible to external EM/RF injection as well as in-line pollution.

Who has performed comparisions?
 
Steve said:
So has anyone tried these yet and how they do they compare to a conventional premium power cable with a Furutech Flux-50 IEC power filter combination hanging off a component?

I am a huge proponent of stage-3 power filtering (component level isolation to distributor, star topology). The Furutech Flux-50 has been the most effective application solution for sensitive HiFi needs for some time now IMO. Similarly, for years, the problem has been addressed in the medical equipment and aerospace industries with products from the likes of Schaffner EMC etc...

We see Shunyata now jumping on board acknowledging that component level pollution is real and in-line filtering is the way to go. Incorporating something similar into their Sigma power cable plug terminations with their 2nd generation Zitron passive circuitry, does it work?

If Shunyata have properly implemented EM filtering into their Zitron plugs along with improved cable shielding to address the problems of associated component power noise injection, then the new line should be a siginificant improvement to their 1st generation Zitron stuff. In particular, the now discontinued Anaconda line which did nothing to help address the problem, being an unshielded cable and susceptible to external EM/RF injection as well as in-line pollution.

Who has performed comparisions?
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That Furutech product isn't cheap. Did you compare this to the first generation of Zitron power cables?
 
madfloyd said:
That Furutech product isn't cheap. Did you compare this to the first generation of Zitron power cables?
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I have compared Furutech PowerFlux + Furutech Flux-50 to Shunyata Anaconda Zitron (1st gen). Furutech combo was the clear and immediate winner. A startling difference in performance! The comparisons were made with the cables plugged into Shynyata Hydra Talos & Cyclops power distributors.

The Anaconda was an unshielded cable and that was its biggest letdown IMO. It radiated EMI in excess of 200mm radius according to EM meter readings, so no contest really as that level of pollution can effect it and anything in proximity. Probably why they discontinued it.
 
madfloyd said:
Are the new Zitrons (Alpha & Sigma) shielded?
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Apparently so. I don't know much about this year's products and my level of interest is no more than a curiosity, others may chime in here or wait until what is in store next year...
 
madfloyd said:
Are the new Zitrons (Alpha & Sigma) shielded?
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Ian, you should ask these questions on WBF or AA. Caelin answers questions on those two forums. He was here for a bit, but the traffic was low, and I am sure he has other things to do than monitor multiple forums.
 
BlueFox said:
Ian, you should ask these questions on WBF or AA. Caelin answers questions on those two forums. He was here for a bit, but the traffic was low, and I am sure he has other things to do than monitor multiple forums.
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Yeah, I know if want current info I could ask over there - but I'm really trying to find out if there's something more effective than Shunyata and I can't ask that over there. I use Shunyta cables throughout and still hear a lot of grunge...
 
madfloyd said:
Yeah, I know if want current info I could ask over there - but I'm really trying to find out if there's something more effective than Shunyata and I can't ask that over there. I use Shunyta cables throughout and still hear a lot of grunge...
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Ian, we both had the Alpha HC's which, correct me if I'm wrong, we both weren't impressed with it. I've since switched to the top of the line Kimber power cord and it's excellent. Something you may want to investigate.

No more grunge, no more bloated bottom end.
 
The older cables, pre Alpha and Sigma, are designed to give great DTCD response, while the Triton/Typhon, and Cyclops, are designed to remove noise. Also, don't you plug your amps directly into the wall? When I added a circuit for each amp I also bought a Cyclops for each amp. By adding the Cyclops my X600.5 amps really quieted down, and opened up.
 
Mike said:
Ian, we both had the Alpha HC's which, correct me if I'm wrong, we both weren't impressed with it. I've since switched to the top of the line Kimber power cord and it's excellent. Something you may want to investigate.

No more grunge, no more bloated bottom end.
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I don't get bloated bottom end. I find the Shunyata thins out the midbass (along with cleaning up the sound) and makes for a more colder presentation. If I switch any power cord out for something else (even an older Shunyata) I get tons of bass, but also a lot of grunge. So the Shunyata is working, I just want more meat on the bones (and a cleaner signal if I can get that too). I sort of assumed that any other power cable manufacturer, other than someone who specializes in power like Furutech, isn't going to come close, but perhaps that's close minded of me.
 
BlueFox said:
The older cables, pre Alpha and Sigma, are designed to give great DTCD response, while the Triton/Typhon, and Cyclops, are designed to remove noise. Also, don't you plug your amps directly into the wall? When I added a circuit for each amp I also bought a Cyclops for each amp. By adding the Cyclops my X600.5 amps really quieted down, and opened up.
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I do plug my amps direct into the wall. I have a dedicated 20 amp circuit for the two of them and behind the outlets is an Equi=tech transformer. You really heard a difference with the Cyclops? I had a Triton for my sources and I couldn't hear a difference and sold it. Wouldn't you have gotten better results with a Typhon on your amp circuits? I'm mixed about the Typhon, while it tightens up the bass it also thins out the midbass and has the effect of 'brightening up' the sound - something I don't want with my M-Projects (which are leaner than your S5s).
 
I use the Triton/Typhon for the low current source gear, and the Cyclops on the amps. When I only had one 20 amp circuit I had everything plugged into the Triton. The Cyclops is just a 2 port Triton.

If I had unlimited funds each amp would have a Cyclops/Typhon, and Sigma HC cables on each link. That would be six $3500 cables for two amps. Yikes! :)
 
madfloyd said:
Yeah, I know if want current info I could ask over there - but I'm really trying to find out if there's something more effective than Shunyata and I can't ask that over there. I use Shunyta cables throughout and still hear a lot of grunge...
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Ian, try Unity Audio cables. I A/B'd the PCs and SCs and grunge is exactly what I hear With the Shunyatas. I just took pics of my Anacondas SCs to sell on Agon. Pcs are gone already.

Ask Jeff if you can try a demo pair. If not, maybe I'll be able to send you mine.

Are you going to audition the Viero cables?
 
socfan12 said:
Ian, try Unity Audio cables. I A/B'd the PCs and SCs and grunge is exactly what I hear With the Shunyatas. I just took pics of my Anacondas SCs to sell on Agon. Pcs are gone already.

Ask Jeff if you can try a demo pair. If not, maybe I'll be able to send you mine.

Are you going to audition the Viero cables?
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Which Jeff are your referring to, Allen? I'm not familiar with the Unity brand. Sounds intriguing.

You know, I'm very close to auditioning the Viero - at least the speaker cables and maybe an interconnect as well. I've been chatting with Devis Viero almost every day. They aren't inexpensive and Devis is offering a money back guarantee (30 days to decide). Myles was going to come to the Boston area this weekend but cancelled - he was going to bring his Viero's for me to get a taste.

I have to admit, while I don't enjoy breaking in cables, I do enjoying auditioning them. It's fascinating the differences they make.
 
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