Shunyata adapter

JohnThomas,
I'd recommend this; just be sure to get one that is at least 14 AWG like the one shown.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MNJ5DMW/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_rHMIEbPVNMVYB

Its best to plug the Sonos' AC to DC adapter into a separate power strip from the power distributor used for your audio gear and also keep the Sonos away from the Main Audio rack as much as possible. if you use a separate power strip, you won't need the adapter cable.

This is because the Sonos uses is the dreaded switch-mode power supply aka SMPS :afraid:, the impact these have on high-end audio components is ghastly, and you don't want these anywhere near your audio gear and certainly not plugged into the power distributor that powers your main components.

Switch-mode power supplies cause the dreaded low-source and high-source impedance leakage currents and do all sorts of harm to digital playback, including increased clock phase noise and jitter. The impact of these noise components is quite audible.

if you know the current and voltage for SMPS for your Sonos, you can order good quality and clean linear power supply one matches the current/voltage specifications from Jameco Electronics. Then use the adapter cable referenced above and you can plug that into your Denali.
 
Shunyata should have an option for the V14D to terminate with a female NEMA for devices such as this Sonos and NVIDIA Shield TV. So like the Venom Extension / VENOM EXT but also with NR.
 
I'd second PumaCat's post on getting a real LPSU for the Sonos. Especially if it interacts with your system in any way as a streaming source.

The next best thing is a quiet switch mode but you still need to check the voltage and DC current. I'm not sure it will fit the orientation of your Denali, maybe the end outlet(?)
I can't link yet but it's called the ipowerx from ifi audio. It's their new one and not superexpensive.

Myself use the HDPLEX LPSU (200W) because it's so versatile and can handle everything from 3-19V even with higher currents if needed. It can also power up to 4 devices on different voltages simultaneously.
 
Crion said:
I'd second PumaCat's post on getting a real LPSU for the Sonos. Especially if it interacts with your system in any way as a streaming source.

The next best thing is a quiet switch mode but you still need to check the voltage and DC current. I'm not sure it will fit the orientation of your Denali, maybe the end outlet(?)
I can't link yet but it's called the ipowerx from ifi audio. It's their new one and not superexpensive.

Myself use the HDPLEX LPSU (200W) because it's so versatile and can handle everything from 3-19V even with higher currents if needed. It can also power up to 4 devices on different voltages simultaneously.
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I don't know about the new iFi, but if its like the iPower, its also a switch-mode power supply and most importantly, spews out a lot of high-source impedance leakage current.

Its best, easiest, most effective and cheapest to just get a Jameco Reliapro regulated linear power supply for...$11.
 
Thanks guys for the info, I never realized that hooking up the Sonos into the same conditioner could be such a problem. I did e-mail Shunyata for suggestions. Seems like the easiest solution is to just not plug it into the Denali at all.
 
johnthomas said:
Thanks guys for the info, I never realized that hooking up the Sonos into the same conditioner could be such a problem. I did e-mail Shunyata for suggestions. Seems like the easiest solution is to just not plug it into the Denali at all.
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Yes, but be advised if you connect your Sonos directly to your DAC via USB, etc. and still use the stock SMPS adapter, you will still be sending high-source impedance leakage current to your DAC from the dreaded SMPS, and the impact of this will be increased clock phase noise, which is sonically deleterious and audible. If you want reference that is more in-depth as to why, just let me know and I will post a link to the reference.
 
Johnthomas, most of us in this day and age have digital sources. But just upgrading your PSU will reward you with higher SQ.
Denali is good at handling noise but if you can lessen it to a high degree just by exchanging a stock SMPS to LPSU or even the ifi xpower this will benefit all plugged into Denali.

If Sonos is your music source then it really should be on the Denali, it should benefit the end-result, but try to lessen the noise load first... :=)
 
Crion said:
Johnthomas, most of us in this day and age have digital sources. But just upgrading your PSU will reward you with higher SQ.
Denali is good at handling noise but if you can lessen it to a high degree just by exchanging a stock SMPS to LPSU or even the ifi xpower this will benefit all plugged into Denali.

If Sonos is your music source then it really should be on the Denali, it should benefit the end-result, but try to lessen the noise load first... :=)
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The Sonos is not my primary digital source, I just like it for background music when I'm not doing critical listening.
 
johnthomas said:
The Sonos is not my primary digital source, I just like it for background music when I'm not doing critical listening.
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Just get the small adapter $8 and plug it in. It will sound fine. Everything can be upgraded. Does a better power supply sound better? Sure. But at some point, especially for casual listening you need to draw a line on cost. Give a try and let us know what you think

Also, if you don’t want to get the adapter, you can remove the cable cradle on the back of the Denali but then you loose its fabulous ability to hold power cords in place.
 
Question regarding the use of V14 adapters with C5, C7 connectors.

For primary sources/streamers, is this a true statement?
A Shunyata Alpha V2 NR connected with V14 adapter and C5/C7 outlet will always surpass a straight V14D cable with C5/C8 connector on audio/video streamers regardless if the electronics have internal LPSU or SMPS?

Will they sound close/identical or will the class difference be apparent in a reference system?
 
Crion said:
Question regarding the use of V14 adapters with C5, C7 connectors.

For primary sources/streamers, is this a true statement?
A Shunyata Alpha V2 NR connected with V14 adapter and C5/C7 outlet will always surpass a straight V14D cable with C5/C8 connector on audio/video streamers regardless if the electronics have internal LPSU or SMPS?

Will they sound close/identical or will the class difference be apparent in a reference system?
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If the streamer outputs an audio signal - then yes the Venom NR V12 or V10 would be substantially better.

If the streamer operates purely in the digital domain, connected to a separate DAC - then the Venom V14 Digital cable would work quite well. The V12/10 would still sound better but by a smaller margin.
 
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