Schiit Yggdrasil DAC Arrived

Dan, when you sit for a listen do you go back and listen to some of the same tracks you began with? I'm thinking to compare differences due to break in using a few go to tracks each time would help.

Brian.......I do use the same tracks during the first 30 minutes of each listening session. I have a playlist saved on the Aurender music server which consists of a solo piano track, a solo acoustic guitar track, a jazz female vocalist, and a blues band track (Liz Story, Mike Howe, Diana Krall, Ronnie Earl and The Broadcasters). I know each track intimately so it is relatively easy for me to identify whether aspects of the frequency range, dynamic range, soundstage, and resolution are less than reference level compared to the same tracks played on my studio system. I listen for clarity as a whole and clarity of individual instruments and voices. I listen for harmonics in upper octaves of acoustic guitar strings. I listen closely to the sounds of single and combined notes and chords on solo piano. The broad frequency spectrum of a grand piano can be extremely revealing. I listen to vocalists, particularly female vocalist, and pay special attention for sibilance, which can be a natural sound in support of vocals or an exaggerated sound that is distracting if over-emphasized. I listen to a blues track to ensure there is robust and rhythmic bass, separation of lead and rhythm guitar sounds, and space that separates vocals from instruments and drums. I pay close attention to the creation of a realistic sound stage. Listening to this 30 minutes of music every time I audition the state of a component's break-in can be quite telling. It also lets me know when the time has arrived where no additional changes are taking place, that the sonic signature of the audio component in question as become permanent. Once I have this 30 minute audition exercise behind me and a few notes written to ensure recall, I then randomly play whatever catches my eye as I browse my library.
 
Tonight I spent over two hours listening to my new Yggdrasil DAC and the Aurender N100H music server. I used the headphone output of my McIntosh C2300 tube preamplifier and the Sennheiser HD800 headphone. It was an up close and personal, intimate and involving, pleasantly enjoyable listening session. With 124 hours of active break-in on it at this time, plus the 72 hours burn-in at the factory before shipping, the Yggdrasil DAC is opening beautifully. Even with limited hours it is proving itself to be a remarkably revealing and musical DAC, the kind you don't want to stop listening to. I will continue to play the Aurender N100H and the Yggdrasil 24 hours a day for at least the next two weeks before getting serious about a review of its performance. I can say this much at this time, it already sounds better than my Wyred 4 Sound DAC2 with the ESS ES9018 delta sigma DAC that I currently use in my headphone rig. The Schiit Audio Yggdrasil DAC is quite special. I expect the sound to continue to improve with additional hours. More to follow.


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I can say this much at this time, it already sounds better than my Wyred 4 Sound DAC2 with the ESS ES9018 delta sigma DAC that I currently use in my headphone rig. The Schiit Audio Yggdrasil DAC is quite special. I expect the sound to continue to improve with additional hours.


Good to hear you are enjoying your new gear. It tells something if the Yggdrasil sounds good via the Senns, as those are very revealing.

Related to the W4S comparison, it is however a bit of a simplification to judge the sound of a DAC based on the onboard IC, as the actual implementation and customizable filtering affects the sound quite a bit. There is a sound signature though, if the ESS9018 does all the conversion work like D/A processing, PLL and digital filtering. Nevertheless, also in that case an Oppo or Auralic implementation do sound quite different IMHO. And even then allocation of the eight DAC circuits to one or both channels (stereo/ mono) will affect the noise floor quite significantly.

Further, there are a few DACs in the hi-end segment, where the DAC chip does not affect the sound at all, as it is only used for the actual D/A conversion and all sound related processing and filtering is done in custom sound processors.

PS: What’s the story with the product names derived from Germanic mythodology?


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Congrats Dan, never too late for men to enjoy new Christmas toys :)
The video in the other thread has convinced me I need to get a piece of Schiit in my system at some point.
That sort of value in a domestic made product is impressive.

cheers,

AJ
 
IME, the AES input of the Yggy sounds better compared to the USB input - it will be worthwhile experimenting there once the dust settles. Also, the balanced outputs are better sounding than the RCAs. The DAC doesn't necessarily need break-in as much as it needs warm up. This warm up is essential any time you turn off the amp for more than an hour or two. I figure it takes two to three days to get back into its stride (dont ask me why). It's a great DAC and the consensus is there is nothing less than 10k that definitively beats it. Enjoy, and Happy New Year!
 
It's a great DAC and the consensus is there is nothing less than 10k that definitively beats it. Enjoy, and Happy New Year!

Consensus between who?
- T+A DAC 8 DSD
- Auralic Vega
- PS Audio DSD
- Aqua La Scala II Optologic
- Totaldac Reference D1
- Meitner MA 1 v2
- Bricasti M1
- MSB Analog DAC
- Ayre QX-5 Twenty

Quite a few roadblocks on the way to that title, just to name a few.


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Does “PCM only” put a wrinkle in things?

I HAVE heard it and it’s very very good. But PCM only. The PS Audio and Ayre are also right there with it, albeit at a much higher price point.


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Let’s not spoil Dan’s fun here: he has just bought a fantastic new product and appears to enjoy it a lot. That’s what we wish for anyone having just ventured into buying something new.

And as it sounds, the Yggdrasil might just be a category killer, meaning its punching way above its weight class.

But a blanket statement of it beating everything 5x its price is a bit much, especially as there are some real heavy hitters in that price bracket.


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Same way folks determined MQA is "better", what a "reference" DAC for properly hearing MQA is, etc, etc. Word of mouth ;)

That is a bit of a blanket statement and does not make very much sense.

Do you have a tenable point?


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Does “PCM only” put a wrinkle in things?

I HAVE heard it and it’s very very good. But PCM only. The PS Audio and Ayre are also right there with it, albeit at a much higher price point.


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Its a good Dac and a great value, but I would take an Atlantic+ with a DSD512 engine over it (lets not even speak of a GA)....but that is just me.

Mike I, really, really iiked your AG system in the front room with the GA.

Jim,
I have a couple pals who love the Yggy, so I trust your ears will be happy with it as your pocket is!
Happy New Year!
 
Please elaborate?


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I'm really at a loss as to where my use of English is failing me here but I'll try harder. I've read of many accounts of Yggdrasil comparisons against higher priced DACs where it wasn't categorically beaten. I myself have, with a desire to upgrade, compared its sound (directly) to the Lampi Big 7 and (indirectly) to multiple DACs up to ~8k in price, and never felt it was trounced. Many prefer it to the Chord Dave......I can go on and on. All the same, I was simply giving advice to the OP on how to maximize the performance of his new DAC, and reassuring him of its merits. Hopefully we can all go back to enjoying our holiday shenanigans now.
 
Yes, the exact same way you selected your MQA DAC. That's how Adam arrived at his Yggdrasil consensus.

That does not answer the question what kind of consensus we are talking about.

Btw, how did I select my MQA DAC and how would you know?

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I'm really at a loss as to where my use of English is failing me here but I'll try harder. I've read of many accounts of Yggdrasil comparisons against higher priced DACs where it wasn't categorically beaten. I myself have, with a desire to upgrade, compared its sound (directly) to the Lampi Big 7 and (indirectly) to multiple DACs up to ~8k in price, and never felt it was trounced. Many prefer it to the Chord Dave......I can go on and on. All the same, I was simply giving advice to the OP on how to maximize the performance of his new DAC, and reassuring him of its merits. Hopefully we can all go back to enjoying our holiday shenanigans now.

It’s all good, I’m sure Dan has done his due diligence. And I believe the Yggdrasil is a very good DAC.

But I’m afraid that consensus statement was already proven not tenable, as we have seen in this very thread. That was my only point asking for clarification.


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That does not answer the question what kind of consensus we are talking about.

Btw, how did I select my MQA DAC and how would you know?
You told us:
Reviews: In Stereoplay Fremer liked it quite a bit, but JA was critical about some measurements and so it was heavily downgraded in the rankings. But no such mention in TAS, Stereo, Hi-Fi & Records or Audio - just high praise. Why might that be? Well, not the first time JA has attested bad measurement results to something that sounds great. At least I could not hear the slightest bit of anything that would have caused anything but sheer delight.
You sought your own "consensus" via glowing anecdotal subjective reviews. Same as heaped on the Yggy, as Adam indicated.
Can't have it both ways.
Both DACs have "consensus" purely subjective praise. You have one, Dan got the other.
When it comes to pure subjectivity, preferences and "consensus" varies. As in YMMV.:)

cheers,

AJ
 
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