Ref 10 Replacement in Feb 2020 ?
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Randy Myers
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Of course the world needs another $30,000 pre-Amp. Just kidding, I respect ARC, but dam... how many ultra expensive pre-amps do we really need.
I have a friend who got rid of a Ref 10 liking the Stage 2 performance much better
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I have a friend who got rid of a Ref 10 liking the Stage 2 performance much better
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Sharp 2160
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Just my opinion only. I'm very happy with my Ref 10. I have no desire to "chase the rainbow" any longer! Money spent elsewhere on things that really matter more in my life. It will be interesting the "improvement" they make on it. Is it actually a step forward or just "different" to appease the OCD?
Randy Myers
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It looks like you have a fantastic system! Obviously I was kidding about the Ref10. I would love to try one . But, as you said, there are other areas in my life .
. But, as you said, there are other areas in my life .
I don’t know, but I doubt there will be a replacement any time soon. I kind of ask “how on earth could they improve the REF10?”
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Easy, 50th years of ARC: Anniversary edition...
@ Randy- just plan for it...:happy:instead of two steaks an evening - have one..
Care to make a friendly wager? I have my doubts.
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Jozua
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Mike!
Fine, a good bottle of Cape Wine for you if I am misinformed.. for three SACD's as I suspect the transport cost will be high.
Unless there is visiting forum member who can pop it in his bag...then only one SACD
We set the deadline June 2020 for Arc to show their hand.
J
Fine, a good bottle of Cape Wine for you if I am misinformed.. for three SACD's as I suspect the transport cost will be high.
Unless there is visiting forum member who can pop it in his bag...then only one SACD
We set the deadline June 2020 for Arc to show their hand.
J
Randy Myers
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@ Randy- just plan for it...:happy:
Hmmmm... I don't think I will live long enough by cutting my steak intake in half to "save" for a ref 10.... $30,000 divided by lets say $20 for a good steak. So 1500 less steaks.... hmmm.... Now we have to talk about two steaks an evening.... I know I am big.... but dam
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At a Music Matters event in Seattle last spring, I spoke with the ARC guy (his name is escaping me at the moment...Dave Gordon?) discussing this very thing. I mentioned the REF10 is getting a little long in the tooth, five years is a more typical update cycle, and its been about 7+ for the REF10. His answer "next year is our 50th anniversary" and then he stopped talking.
I will bet a new REF11 will include some advancements that have crept into the REF6 and REF160M -- The REF160 uses a new four layer circuit board, and I believe the REF6 now uses 3 6H30 valves per channel compared to 2 in prior versions like REF5SE. I also expect a delicious new aesthetic more in line with REF6 and REF160M.
Hey Mike, I'll take a dinner/wine bet if you're still game!
Uh oh. I better get ready to ship! I still don’t think so. REF10 is so amazing.
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50th anniversary. And that would be a cool amp. I could be wrong, time will tell. For now, I’ll stick with the bad ass REF10.
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Randy Myers
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If I could comfortably afford one I would probably give one a try. Even if it didn't sound any better then the Stage 2 I think the prestige and history of ARC might win out.
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At Paragons's World of McIntosh event last Thursday I believe someone asked Dave Gordon whether a replacement for the Ref 10 was imminent. His answer was not imminent. They are almost ready to release a stereo version of their latest mono blocks. That will be followed by a integrated amp with modular capabilities for adding a DAC etc.
I was only half paying attention so I could be slightly off on this response.
I was only half paying attention so I could be slightly off on this response.
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50 years in this industry is a BFD... I completely expect ARC will take full advantage of the marketing opportunity to an even greater extent than they did with 40th anniversary. I think maybe we’ll see the end-of-production of Ref10 phono, Ref10 line stage, possibly REf250se, (each of which is at or beyond typical product life-cycle anyway) to be replaced with Anniversary models of each. No way a company passes up this monumental achievement (50 years) without producing statement products.
Jozua
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Randy
Over time I have come to realize that many people enjoy their audio systems like having a sweet of which the taste is soon forgotten. Call it a "Oh that is nice", reaction.
Then you sometimes by accident find certain products that recreates sound in such a manner than it repeatedly somehow stirs something deep inside you. At that point price really becomes irrelevant.
Take care.
J
Over time I have come to realize that many people enjoy their audio systems like having a sweet of which the taste is soon forgotten. Call it a "Oh that is nice", reaction.
Then you sometimes by accident find certain products that recreates sound in such a manner than it repeatedly somehow stirs something deep inside you. At that point price really becomes irrelevant.
Take care.
J
brad225
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Hmmmm... I don't think I will live long enough by cutting my steak intake in half to "save" for a ref 10.... $30,000 divided by lets say $20 for a good steak. So 1500 less steaks.... hmmm.... Now we have to talk about two steaks an evening.... I know I am big.... but dam
I like that idea. Now if I can only convince my wife it should be retroactive. I quit eating red meat 48 years ago so, even if I ate a steak once a week that would be 2,496 steaks x $20 = $49,920.
Hopefully she won't bring up eating Stone Crab, Alaskan Halibut or Ahi Tuna. Well it seemed like a good idea for a couple of minutes.