Qubuz in the USA is just around the corner.

My point being, they did not talk about using an MQA dac in the article. I don't have an MQA dac. That means I get nothing better than 16/44.1 with my system using Tidal. They did test higher resolution files.

Anyway about it, it launces in the USA in a couple days, Correct? We can all take on the free trial and see if we like the sound and the library.

Kingrex said:
Technically its a smaller file that is being upsamples, correct.
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What if Tidal MQA sounds better than Qobuz high res or visa versa? Hmmm...this should be fun.


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Kingrex said:
My point being, they did not talk about using an MQA dac in the article. I don't have an MQA dac. That means I get nothing better than 16/44.1 with my system using Tidal. They did test higher resolution files.

Anyway about it, it launces in the USA in a couple days, Correct? We can all take on the free trial and see if we like the sound and the library.
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Based on the comment posted by Paul on PS Audio Forum and also by Chris on Computeraudiophile it seems the official launch is delayed. Qobuz might have eval codes available for you to try similar to what they had done for CEDIA. The CEDIA eval code was for 3 months.
 
I downloaded it via vpn and have had it for about a week now. On average, the SQ is much better than Tidal to my ear and on my system. If I can ween the family from Tidal, I'm gone (even before the Roon integration, which I hope will happen soon).
 
I'm not going to do any fancy mumbo-jumbo to get it running on my server. When it's out in the US I will try it. But let us not forget how important software is. Even the operating system in our computer affects the playback. Roon is known for their play back. It is generally touted as much better than jriver based upon all the work they've done with their software. Maybe Qobuz has a very good set of software behind it. It would be interesting to know if the people experiencing Qobuz and prefer it better than Tidale0 are playing Tidal through Tidal or through their roon app and more importantly through Roon with hq player operating.
 
There is a good discussion here https://www.psaudio.com/pauls-posts/purity-at-the-source/

Cookie Marenco, of Blue Coast Records, describes the dizzying array of factors that can go into what kind of sq you will get from streaming It mostly comes down to the quality of the mastering and whether that mastering has been degraded along the path between the label and product (be it physical CD, downloaded file or streamed file). The best files will be "pre CD mastered" and will bypass
the Digital Aggregators (companies that process the files between the label and retailer.) These processes can have no regard for sq. For instance, a small label can have their files "auto-mastered" by an aggregator for $6 a song. How do you think that's going to sound?

If I understand, both Qobuz and MQA, do not at this time use aggregators, and according to Cookie, Qobuz goes to efforts to seek source masters that are "pre CD master."

He also seems to be doubtful how long, given the state of the music business, if such careful sourcing is sustainable.

Also discussed is possibility of improved sq by caching streamed files to then play offline.
 
Willco said:
There is a good discussion here https://www.psaudio.com/pauls-posts/purity-at-the-source/

Cookie Marenco, of Blue Coast Records, describes the dizzying array of factors that can go into what kind of sq you will get from streaming It mostly comes down to the quality of the mastering and whether that mastering has been degraded along the path between the label and product (be it physical CD, downloaded file or streamed file). The best files will be "pre CD mastered" and will bypass
the Digital Aggregators (companies that process the files between the label and retailer.) These processes can have no regard for sq. For instance, a small label can have their files "auto-mastered" by an aggregator for $6 a song. How do you think that's going to sound?

If I understand, both Qobuz and MQA, do not at this time use aggregators, and according to Cookie, Qobuz goes to efforts to seek source masters that are "pre CD master."

He also seems to be doubtful how long, given the state of the music business, if such careful sourcing is sustainable.

Also discussed is possibility of improved sq by caching streamed files to then play offline.
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Thanks, FYI, Cookie is a she.
 
I tried to stream Qobuz today and I got a Cart Order Error based upon Country. ×
cart.orderCreate.error.country

I guess it did not make the Rocky Mountain launch date.​
 
Willco said:
There is a good discussion here https://www.psaudio.com/pauls-posts/purity-at-the-source/

Cookie Marenco, of Blue Coast Records, describes the dizzying array of factors that can go into what kind of sq you will get from streaming It mostly comes down to the quality of the mastering and whether that mastering has been degraded along the path between the label and product (be it physical CD, downloaded file or streamed file). The best files will be "pre CD mastered" and will bypass
the Digital Aggregators (companies that process the files between the label and retailer.) These processes can have no regard for sq. For instance, a small label can have their files "auto-mastered" by an aggregator for $6 a song. How do you think that's going to sound?

If I understand, both Qobuz and MQA, do not at this time use aggregators, and according to Cookie, Qobuz goes to efforts to seek source masters that are "pre CD master."

He also seems to be doubtful how long, given the state of the music business, if such careful sourcing is sustainable.

Also discussed is possibility of improved sq by caching streamed files to then play offline.
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comes down to the quality of the mastering and whether that mastering has been degraded along the path between the label and product (be it physical CD, downloaded file or streamed file).
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Well put, bingo
 
Jack said:
I just sent you instructions that should work.
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Got it thanks. My issue is I'm already signed up and it sees my computer and automatically logs me in. I can try and find the Qubuz cookie and delete it. I just hate deleting the wrong one, then having to find access and passwords info. I want the real launch to happen.

Also, is your stream coming across the ocean. Which begs a bigger question. Do streaming services have servers all over so the data does not have to travel through multiple pops and switches to it's destination. Or do they have 1 server bank in 1 location.
 
I used a different e-mail account than the one my paid Qobuz account is listed in so it went straight through. So if you have another e-mail account use it or just use your wife's to sign up for the free trial. The free trial even allows hi-res streams.

Since they have no official presence in the US I would assume all of their streams are coming from the EU servers.
 
Jack said:
I used a different e-mail account than the one my paid Qobuz account is listed in so it went straight through. So if you have another e-mail account use it or just use your wife's to sign up for the free trial. The free trial even allows hi-res streams.

Since they have no official presence in the US I would assume all of their streams are coming from the EU servers.
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After registering, and clicking remind me later or something similar I was able to as well. So far only on the iPhone and iPad


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Just log in to Qobuz on the Conductor app and you should be good to go until at least until the Launch takes place if it takes place in November.
 
Kingrex said:
How does it sound Ed. Are you finding good music?
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Actually can’t get past samples and with that only on my phone.

Aurender appears it loaded it but can get beyond the sign in.

Maybe someone knows from RMAF what the launch date is - I did hear November scuttlebutt


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I noticed yesterday in the setup menu of my Aurender music servers that Qobuz now shows up under Streaming service accounts. When you tap on Qobuz a window opens for account information, a Join Qobuz tab, and a Try 1 month free tab. Unfortunately at this time when you attempt to create an account you get a page that informs you "Qobuz isn't available in your country". You can enter your email address if you wish to be notified of Qobuz latest developments in your country.

I am happy to see that Aurender is on top of Qobuz integration into the Conductor app. I am looking forward to the official USA launch of Qobuz. An alternative to Tidal will be a welcomed event.
 
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