Putting a System Together

Deafone

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Do you prefer to listen to a piece of equipment in your system before purchasing? For me, I want to hear major pieces of equipment in my system before buying. I’ve tried buying based on reviews only and been disappointed. For speakers, you can’t always audition at home. I still want to hear them in a set-up where I am familiar with the equipment and hopefully the room. It’s coming to the point where I rely on a local dealer who has a good selection of stuff in my price range.

I personally don’t have the financial means to keep buying things until I get it right. I also don’t want to bother with the hassle of selling equipment that doesn’t work. Luckily, I live in a major market with good dealers.

How do you put a system together?
 
definitely try before you buy in your own system if you can, it is the only way to be happy.
 
I don't mind buying used, trying, then reselling if it doesn't pan out (except speakers, that's a pain!). If you don't overpay for quality gear then you can most often resell with little or no loss.
 
Deafone,

It would be nice to live in an area where there's a bustling hi-fi scene. Imaging having tons of shops at your disposal - with every single one of them supporting the idea of in-home auditions. Tis' a lovely thought. Sadly though, it's a luxury that's afforded to very few people.

For guys like me, the process of building a system often involves doing a whole bunch of research, searching the used market for a good deal, making a purchase, and then flipping the gear later to try something different (should I feel compelled to). It's not the most economic way to fly, but it is a way.
 
Access to and trialing equipment continues to be a problem for me and Australians in general. The Australian market is limited due to population, affordability levels, consumption priorities and largely ignorance. Indeed what we are mostly talking about are non-stocked, unconsigned, JIT imported luxury items with manufacturing origins from North America, EU, Japan and now China.

I took the safe bet and have generally been satisfied with the core level of HiFi I focussed on. I didn't buy the very best in "High end" but bought on the basis of longer term historical credibility at a time when the local foreign exchange currency was able to take me a little further.

Relatively speaking, if I were to build a new system from scratch today, I could be inclined to make different choices because all things are no longer equal.

It is a difficult process but you can develop an ear over time which can be used to listen to many "potentials" at HiFi shows and the like. It is very rare that a demonstration is setup correctly in ideal surroundings. Those eager to spend their hard earned on luxury electronics and loudspeakers need to understand this and take their time even if it means travelling the world to research and listen before making a commitment.

There is a lot of over priced gear out there today especially loudspeakers that do not excel past a common sound that is truly better than their recent vintage peers. The latest model is sometimes not as good as last year's model because of corporate economic compromise in favour of profit margin.

Dealers often criticise customers for making certain "high end" choice combinations especially if they have purchased outside of their particular stable or, if they have overcapitalised on one aspect of their system it is a vulnerability the dealer will try to suggestive sell upon. Sometimes their argument has technical merit. Often, they fail to demonstrate in reality a differentially better performance/value proposition.

Just because it is shiny and expensive, it doesn't mean it is technically innovative and brilliant enough to become a classic keeper.

Some of the HiFi industry is built around clever marketing and pseudo science so don't believe everything you "hear" or are told. That HiFi magazine review is rarely critically negative because the industry is not geared that way. Take your time, never pay retail and those technical measurements don't always stack up to what sounds best to you.

Lastly, forums can help you narrow down the subjectivity but try to look past the sponsorship and hurrah.
 
A very simple, efficient, fast technique for weeding out systems with potential, versus those that will always disappoint - that I use - is to put on the brashest, most aggressive recording that I have with me, that I have a personal fondness for - and wind up the volume to something that I would want to experience every now and again. If the sound falls off the perch doing this then it's never going to fly as a personal system - it will always be lacking, too much work trying to optimise it.

A good way to quickly assess whether one's wasting one's time or not!
 
You are lucky to live in an area where you have access to audio dealers. Perhaps your area also has an active audio society. That would be a great way to see what others are using, the opportunity to hear new and different gear and meet others with the same interest. Some of these members might be willing to bring over a piece of gear for an audition in your home. And you just might make some new friends in the process.
 
Where I live, even though the city is rapidly growing, there's no interest at all in music and audio here. As expected, there's no hifi shops here, no music stores, nothing. Other than driving 50+ miles in either direction to get to somewhat decent hifi/music shops, there's nothing. Not only that, I drive a little Fiat Abarth, so I can't fit anything in it even if I wanted to.

Whenever I'm interested in gear, I read as many professional reviews as I can, then move on to reading actual owner reviews in various forums. Those are the reviews that really give you a sense of the gear in question. From that, I make my choice and go from there, ordering online. The majority of the time, I'm happy with my choice thanks to all of the reviews that I read.
 
Welcome Chops!!! Glad to see you over here.

I am in he same boat. There are no dealers anywhere near me. The one store in my area is a complete joke and the next closes is in Santa Barbara which is and hour and a half away. The store also is not what I consider a customer friendly store. The concentrate on installations and raking the "rich" in Santa Barabara over the coals. The one guy who actually "sells" their audio is quite the ass. A snot nose kid who always thinks he knows best. For example, I mentioned wanting to see what they had in CD transports once. They had a Rotel and Marantz that I wanted to hear about. Even though I told him I rarely used it and didn't want to sink a ton into it, he would not show me anything but the $3k Linn.... really....

Every time I have been to the store it's the same thing.... he will not show me anything but their top and if you mention lower models he scoffs it off... even though he is surely a community college drop out....

So yea, no chance of listening and comparing...

However, I do not believe listening in a store really gives a fair picture anyway since you have no idea if the equipment is broken in, no control over the other items being used such as the electronics when listening to speakers. The environment is completely different, etc. All of which makes listening to equipment in a store next to useless in my view.
 
Hello Randy! Thanks for mentioning this forum to me yesterday! I'm glad to be here!

There's only two good shops around here that I know of in a 50-100 mile range. One is a shop I used to work at many many years ago in Tampa, the other I was just told about over in Bradenton, Mike's store! I might just have to go pay him a visit one day. I'm sure my brothers will want to tag along.
 
I wish I had something like Mike's store around here. The only thing I have close is Wyred 4 Sound which I can pick up gear from them....

We do have a very nice audio club that Tony from Wyred invited me to join. Last Sunday probably the premier system in the club was on display when that member hosted the meeting. Holy crap... MBL Pre-amp, mono amps and speakers.... Audio Research phono stage amp and power supply... on and on.... pretty amazing setup...
 
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