Pretty amazing what is on the other side of your high priced ICs

[Shadowfax]

Yesterday I did some cleaning, re-arranging of gear, and tidying up of cables. I also had to open up my Counterpoint amp to tighten the RCA jack that the Right Input IC connects to.

I was pretty much floored to see that you can have garden hose ICs at any price point connected to the jacks, but on the inside all there is is 2 tiny little wires of the tiniest gauge you can find. I don't know why, but I was expecting something a little beefier on the inside.

Not the best pic I could find on the net, but you can see the tiny little wires at the back rt and left of this shot here. Are all Amps like this on the inside?

 

[joeinid]

It's scary how thin some of the internal wiring is inside the gear actually is. I will say that cables make a difference, some can kill the sound, some make it perfect.

 

[Shadowfax]

Now on the flip side, my Odyssey Stratos amp uses the same Groneburg Cabling from the RCA jack to the boards as they use for ICs, which makes sense compared to the hair thick diameter inside the Counterpoint (pic not my amp, but same deal)

 

[Kuoppis]

You should check inside your LS...


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[puroagave]

my perception is different, the counterpoint is an object lesson in good design and layout, imo the odyssey is a mess.

 

[Shadowfax]

Rob,

My questions were not around design and layout, but rather the teeny little wires that connect the back of the RCA jack to the boards where people attach mega-bug ICs. But, I get your observations.

 

[mep]

my perception is different, the counterpoint is an object lesson in good design and layout, imo the odyssey is a mess.

Totally agree Rob.

 

[DSkip]

Different purposes and different locations mean different approaches. As a speaker designer who is beginning to garner great press told me at RMAF, he doesn't need thick gauge in his speakers like he does for the external wiring. He also doesn't need internal wiring to match the speaker cable because its a different application altogether.

Thinking back, I'm not even sure how we got to that topic...

 

[Speedskater]

From an electrical point of view, the center conductor of a RCA cable can be extremely small, 30AWG or even smaller. The load is often about 10k Ohms, so the current is microscopic. But from a mechanical viewpoint, it needs to be larger to avoid breaking.

 

[still-one]

Now this is what the inside of a real amp looks like.

 

[Shadowfax]

Jim, whats at the inside of the RCA? Tiny blue wire?

 

[still-one]

Jim, whats at the inside of the RCA? Tiny blue wire?

From this rear view I "believe" it may be going to the grounding point. See below.

 

[Phishphan]

Now this is what the inside of a real amp looks like.

A dream amp.


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[puroagave]

Now this is what the inside of a real amp looks like.

it's a beauty to behold, for sure. unfortunately for me i'd never own one. it sounds as antiseptic and sterile (dry) as it appears on the inside. Ive heard this amp on Wilsons and Focals, the latter literally drove me out of the room.

 

[tdimler]

These 3000 series Boulder amps are a wonder to behold in person.