Pink Floyd in High Resolution

Some of the high res geeks online were up in arms about some issues with the streaming services versions. One thing the tracks seemed to vary in what master they were from, one guy says his varied from 96k to 192k on tracks in the same album.

Another issue was with the version Tidal used in Europe, I didn't fully grasp the particulars on that one.

I hav to say that first one always bothered me. I could tell prior from descriptions that tracks were pulled from various places to complete an album. When I play an album I expect all tracks to be from the same album/master etc. not piece milled. Hopefully this isn' an issue with buying downloads.
 
Mr Peabody said:
Some of the high res geeks online were up in arms about some issues with the streaming services versions. One thing the tracks seemed to vary in what master they were from, one guy says his varied from 96k to 192k on tracks in the same album.

Another issue was with the version Tidal used in Europe, I didn't fully grasp the particulars on that one.

I hav to say that first one always bothered me. I could tell prior from descriptions that tracks were pulled from various places to complete an album. When I play an album I expect all tracks to be from the same album/master etc. not piece milled. Hopefully this isn' an issue with buying downloads.
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Just another argument against streaming as a primary listening source (along with some degree of sound quality compromise in most listening setups). I wonder how long it might take for the bugs to get worked out as only a very small percentage of listeners seem to care enough about the "problems"?
 
rbbert said:
DTOSM is the 2011 version (better than the stereo tracks of the 2003 SACD.) WYWH is a new transfer and mastering (clearly different from the 2011 BD and the SACD), though I'm not sure it is better.
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What's the source of info re WYWH being a new mastering? Just genuine curiosity here. People on Steve Hoffman forum looked and the waveforms and are seeing the 2011 remasters.
 
I am comparing the waveforms from the 2011 BD stereo and the new download. Although the DR meter value is the same and the waveforms are similar, they are not identical. I have not looked at that topic in the past few days so I am not sure how closely posters there are checking the waveforms.
 
There's also no news release etc. about any of this, much less any of it being remastered. Not that that's conclusive at all!
 
I did see some places who sell downloads are providing a new version to customers for free to replace the first one purchased. The new version is said to be more of the complete album where the first had the correct track names but were mis matched sources, and had some issue with track length on some.
 
Bart001 said:
What's the source of info re WYWH being a new mastering? Just genuine curiosity here. People on Steve Hoffman forum looked and the waveforms and are seeing the 2011 remasters.
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I've posted on the SHForums to see if anyone has more info. The documentation with the "new" 24/192 indicates a copyright year of 2016, when there was a CD release of WYWH which I don't have for comparison, so it is possible that this is a hi-res version of that transfer/mastering (not previously available except on that CD.)
 
Iv’e got everything from animals on cd and just today checked tidal and found they now have hi rez in 24/96 and 24/192. I put momentary lapse of reason in since it’s currently the most familiar and it doesn’t sound like the same pressing. I’m saying it’s hard to believe what I’m hearing is the difference between 16/44 and 24/96! They must have cleaned it up.
 
steve59 said:
Iv’e got everything from animals on cd and just today checked tidal and found they now have hi rez in 24/96 and 24/192. I put momentary lapse of reason in since it’s currently the most familiar and it doesn’t sound like the same pressing. I’m saying it’s hard to believe what I’m hearing is the difference between 16/44 and 24/96! They must have cleaned it up.
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Depending on what cd you own . . . there was a remastering done in 2019 and I believe that's the master for this current digital hi res release. There were no remasterings or remixing for any of these 2021 hi res releases.
 
Thanks for that. I bought the disc when it came out, but I’m still surprised at the difference even from streaming this album in the standard format recently. Up to this point I more likely to notice if a 24/192 mqa track was playing, but 24/96 was hit or miss most of the time. They did a great job with this album.
 
A Momentary Lapse Of Reason hi-res is very compressed compared to the original. This allows more detail at the expense of musical dynamics.
 
That explains where the drums went and some vocal layering that was more prominent last night. I think what motivates my upgraditis is an attempt to make my favorite music sound interesting again so kudos. it's different again.
 
I’ve seen some of this mastering at work. The stuff they use is garbage. With PF try to get as close to the tape as possible. First pressings, especially Japanese First Pressings are exceptionally good.


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rbbert said:
A Momentary Lapse Of Reason hi-res is very compressed compared to the original. This allows more detail at the expense of musical dynamics.
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Which "hi-rez" version are you referring to?
 
Mike said:
I’ve seen some of this mastering at work. The stuff they use is garbage. With PF try to get as close to the tape as possible. First pressings, especially Japanese First Pressings are exceptionally good.


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Virtually all the Pink Floyd remasterings have used the original master tapes. In many cases (every case where there is now a multi-channel release) the engineers are going even further back to the original session tapes for remixing as well as remastering.
 
mep said:
Which "hi-rez" version are you referring to?
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The 2019 remastering of the 16/48 original master - the extra 2 kHz at the top end make it "hi-rez" compared to the CD :lol: ;).

It's interesting that even though AMLOR was recorded digitally, for The Division Bell sessions they returned to analog
 
rbbert said:
Virtually all the Pink Floyd remasterings have used the original master tapes. In many cases (every case where there is now a multi-channel release) the engineers are going even further back to the original session tapes for remixing as well as remastering.
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Interesting. Why do you think the reports on the sound are so mixed?


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I've read quite a bit of praise for the PF releases of the past few years. I've had no complaints. And as for this latest batch of hi res, certainly The Wall and Animals are stunning. I've not dug a lot deeper into the new hi res than those yet. The Wall had us mesmerized and we've heard it literally a hundred times in various forms over the years.
 
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