Nordost announces QNET switch

brodricj said:
It would make marketing sense to include an SFP port on this for the upstream link.
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Other than the X1, I can’t think of many others. Seems like an unnecessary expense and perhaps, even a compromise in sonics from their standpoint. Perhaps adding SFP adds complexity, cost and noise.


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jmusica said:
...so not having the data stream affected by whatever contamination could affect a copper cable in close proximity to power, speaker, ICs etc, probably is why I saw a difference..
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Might you be trying to solve a non-existent problem? Twisted pairs inside LAN cables are now shielded, and the four twisted pairs are themselves double shielded. Very unlikely "contamination" of any sort, whatever that might be, would have any impact on the data packets traveling down such a cable.
 
brodricj said:
EtherRegen, Renolabs, plenty of others with SFP. It's about marketing. Many customers would buy it just for the SFP.
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I don’t agree. It’s a tiny tiny % that will use SFP.


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Computer audio forums are full of content from people wanting network switches for audio with SFP. Not having SFP is a deal breaker.
 
brodricj said:
Computer audio forums are full of content from people wanting network switches for audio with SFP. Not having SFP is a deal breaker.
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I talked to Nordost this morning. They said that SFP only benefits super long runs and they see this switch being near the components.


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Exactly. Which is why the switch needs SFP. The switch goes near the end point and other devices (to keep your expensive LAN cables short), and the SFP link (which is cheap) makes the long distance back to the router/backbone switch.
 
brodricj said:
Exactly. Which is why the switch needs SFP. The switch goes near the end point and other devices (to keep your expensive LAN cables short), and the SFP link (which is cheap) makes the long distance back to the router/backbone switch.
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People can just add a SFP to Ethernet box.


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brodricj said:
They can, but that is not what they want. They want an audio switch with SFP.
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Won’t happen. We went hot and heavy with fiber when the X1 came out. Meh. It was different, but not better IMO. I guess if I had a 200 foot run, things would change.


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brodricj said:
It won't sell in this market without SFP, and the price is the nail in the coffin.
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LOL. Their first run is almost sold out. We’ve sold three and one for demo.


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Mike said:
LOL. Their first run is almost sold out. We’ve sold three and one for demo.


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That's hilarious! If you are looking for audio gear marketing advice, listen to audiophiles who think they have their finger on the pulse of audiophiles or listen to a dealer who is actually selling into the marketplace?
 
mep said:
That's hilarious! If you are looking for audio gear marketing advice, listen to audiophiles who think they have their finger on the pulse of audiophiles or listen to a dealer who is actually selling into the marketplace?
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It's a bit like looking at the asking prices (e.g., at Audiogon) instead of the selling prices
 
Plenty of uber rich dudes out there with retirement money burning a hole in their pocket. If I was one of them I’d also have 50k speakers and a 4k ethernet switch. Along with 15k furniture to sit stuff on, a dedicated, acoustically treated room, and a trophy wife to keep me company while I listened, or better yet, a trophy mistress :D.

These audio companies know they’re not selling $3500 network switches to Joe Average, and the people buying them don’t care too much to labor over scientific theory - if the marketing says the switch will make the music tickle their gonads, and they can show it off in their signatures, they’re buying it. And I’m pretty sure Nordost knows just how many to manufacture and distribute and Mike knows just how many to buy, to saturate that very specific market. I shoulda been a f’n doctor (like my brother, driving around in his Ferrari), wth was I thinking???
 
Anybody that is complaining about the price of the Nordost switch obviously hasn't looked at the prices of their top ICs, PCs, and speaker cables. Comparatively speaking, the switch is a bargain.
 
Mike said:
Other than the X1, I can’t think of many others. Seems like an unnecessary expense and perhaps, even a compromise in sonics from their standpoint. Perhaps adding SFP adds complexity, cost and noise.


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Sorry but SFP from point to point eliminates noise potential compared to Ethernet
 
still-one said:
Sorry but SFP from point to point eliminates noise potential compared to Ethernet
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If you got back to Ethernet than it’s defeating the purpose. Staying SFP all the way through, one can make an argument for different (but not better in my findings) or SFP long run to Ethernet and then short run to Ethernet from a high quality switch can also work.

Anyway, this is getting way off topic as the use of SFP is so so small, especially as an end point connection.


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These will sell like tires, especially for those fortunate enough to have a complete set of Nordost cabling and grounding solutions.
 
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