*NEW* Shunyata Omega Ethernet
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opcorn:stevebythebay
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How are you deploying this? I’ve used a pair of Sigma’s in/out of Uptone EtherREGEN with great success. Other ends are Roon Nucleus and dCS Vivaldi Upsampler. Just wondering if I’d find benefit of the Omega on one side of the switch versus the other, or would really need a pair.
stevebythebay
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How are you deploying this? I’ve used a pair of Sigma’s in/out of Uptone EtherREGEN with great success. Other ends are Roon Nucleus and dCS Vivaldi Upsampler. Just wondering if I’d find benefit of the Omega on one side of the switch versus the other, or would really need a pair.
Puma Cat
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Hi Steve,
I used the Omega from my downstream Sonore Optical Modue to the SOtM SMS-200 UltraNeo network bridge.
stevebythebay
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OK. Makes sense. I’ll give it a go from my EtherREGEN to the dCS Upsampler. By the way, the current thunderstorm is about the first time I’ve experienced one in August since I moved to the Bay Area in ‘87.
stevebythebay
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By the way, have you had any opportunity to audition any of the upcoming v2 digital and/or analog interconnects?
Puma Cat
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Not yet, no.
stevebythebay
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u-sound
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happy birthday!
Alright both Omegas arrived. You could really feel these are special cables.
Have connected as AES/EBU cables and 4x AES/EBU in the Meridian system, Speakerlink and MMHR cables.
Previously upgraded the switch to uptone etherregen, that one feels like a conductor telling what parts to play at what volume. The Omega is the light on the scene, illuminating the performers. Words are a bit superflous here and I can't say the sound improved with xx%. It's more like the sound 'shifted' into another level of reproduction of performing arts.
That's it! I think they are spectacular. Someone else will have to tell their experience of these as ethernet cables. But in my system as AES/EBU cables they are awesome. :exciting:
I tried uploading proof here
but just says failed after doing 100%. Puma has much nicer photos though and they look even better IRL.
Have connected as AES/EBU cables and 4x AES/EBU in the Meridian system, Speakerlink and MMHR cables.
Previously upgraded the switch to uptone etherregen, that one feels like a conductor telling what parts to play at what volume. The Omega is the light on the scene, illuminating the performers. Words are a bit superflous here and I can't say the sound improved with xx%. It's more like the sound 'shifted' into another level of reproduction of performing arts.
That's it! I think they are spectacular. Someone else will have to tell their experience of these as ethernet cables. But in my system as AES/EBU cables they are awesome. :exciting:
I tried uploading proof here
but just says failed after doing 100%. Puma has much nicer photos though and they look even better IRL.
Puma Cat
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Alright both Omegas arrived. You could really feel these are special cables.
Have connected as AES/EBU cables and 4x AES/EBU in the Meridian system, Speakerlink and MMHR cables.
Previously upgraded the switch to uptone etherregen, that one feels like a conductor telling what parts to play at what volume. The Omega is the light on the scene, illuminating the performers. Words are a bit superflous here and I can't say the sound improved with xx%. It's more like the sound 'shifted' into another level of reproduction of performing arts.
That's it! I think they are spectacular. Someone else will have to tell their experience of these as ethernet cables. But in my system as AES/EBU cables they are awesome. :exciting:
I tried uploading proof here
Thanks, Crion, your experiences parallel mine; the Omega Ethernet is an amazing Ethernet cable. As exemplary as the Sigma is, the Omega just takes it to another level. The Omega provides exemplary openness, airiness, and the TAP device provides even more focus, definition, articulation than the Sigma.
I don't know Shunyata does it, but...they do.
Give 3-4 days to settle and it will get even better.
Some pics I took of Omega...
the professor
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The Omega is awesome. But the new Alpha is amazing. Depending on the system and of course what length you need. They start to get real expensive.
The closer to the dac, the more important it is to spend the extra $$$ for the Omega/Sigma ....
The closer to the dac, the more important it is to spend the extra $$$ for the Omega/Sigma ....
The length calculations have finally changed consistently so you might find that your previous unattainable long ethernet cables can be viable with Shunyatas complete range. I'm very happy about this. Ask for a refreshed quote from your dealer and you might be surprised.
Dealer renegued on their quote after I paid my deposit and it took me two months to get my money back.
MusicLover
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Hi,
got a question for the appropriate use case for the Omega Ethernet: Is my understanding correct that it gets plugged between the LAN Router and a streamer? ... and if so: Do you guys use any special high-end router or the standard $50-100 boxes? I was just wondering: Okay highend Streamer with high end Ethernet cable and than cheapish router?! Is that the standard set-up?!
got a question for the appropriate use case for the Omega Ethernet: Is my understanding correct that it gets plugged between the LAN Router and a streamer? ... and if so: Do you guys use any special high-end router or the standard $50-100 boxes? I was just wondering: Okay highend Streamer with high end Ethernet cable and than cheapish router?! Is that the standard set-up?!
Puma Cat
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If what you're referring to is an Ethernet switch* (as opposed to a router), get an EtherREGEN (ER) Ethernet switch, and at the "downstream end" (where your rack and streamer is) connect your router and music server to EtherREGEN with Ethernet cables on the A-side. Then connect your Omega Ethernet from ER's B-side to your streamer. EtherREGEN only costs USD $640 and ships world-wide:
EtherREGEN – UpTone Audio
If like mine, your router has some RJ45 ports on it for making network connections, you will still obtain considerable benefit by installing an UpTone Audio EtherREGEN between your router and your streamer. You can use any generic Ethernet cable to connect from your router (or switch) to the A-side of EtherREGEN but...it does sound better with a Shunyata Ethernet cable (even Venom is an outstanding performer for this application).
Fig. 1 shows a conventional setup using copper Ethernet making a direct connection from a router with RJ45 ports.
If you require an Ethernet switch from your cable modem or router to make all the necessary "upstream connections" (modem, router, music server, NAS, etc.), you can use a generic Ethernet switch upstream and then use EtherREGEN downstream as shown here in Fig. 2. Just using a generic consumer-grade Ethernet switch (or even the $1000 "audiophile" SOTM sNH-10G Ethernet switch) WILL NOT sound as good as it wiil when used in conjunction with an EtherREGEN downstream; rather it will cause all sorts of problems that are audible (see below for explanation of this).
If it's more convenient, you can use optical fiber to connect from the upstream router to ER downstreams. If you do this, I recommend the Sonore OpticalModule as your fiber media convertor. This will have the same clock that is in ER as it was designed by the same Ethernet engineer, John Swenson.
Fig. 3 shows using a fiber media convertor (Sonore OpticalModule) to the (usually longish) run from the router, switch and music server down to ER in the rack.
The ideal placement is to have ER as your last network device downstream in, or near your audio rack where the streamer is, with nothing between it and your streamer.
Using the EtherREGEN as shown above will result in a significant improvement in the audio quality of your streaming system because the el cheapo clocks, flip-flops and PHYs in "generic" routers, Ethernet switches, and mass-market music servers (e.g. a laptop or Mac Mini) add clock phase noise, and the switch mode power supplies for these add low- and high-source impedance leakage current, which contributes to considerable noise on the ground plane of the analog voltages that comprise "digital bitstreams". The clock phase noise and leakage current contribute increased jitter (as well as specific class of jitter known as threshold jitter) and timing errors, all of which are audible. ER has a differential isolation system known as the ADIM, that will completely block all the "junk" from the upstream networked devices (and their god-awful SMPS power supplies) from going out to your streamer. ER's ADIM (aka "the moat) remove all the leakage current and other garbage upstream and ER has a very good crystal oscillator, the Crystek CCHD-575, that will remove the phase noise and reclock the signal. All this will improve the audio quality of your streaming setup considerably.
If you want to know more about this in detail, I will provide some references, but trust me, it gets really deep, really fast.
There is an extensive review of ER here: UpTone Audio EtherREGEN Review and Comparison - Reviews - Audiophile Style
There is an outstanding review of ER on YouTube by Hans Beekhuizen here:UpTone Audio EtherREGEN audiophile switch - YouTube. Hans review is very accurate as far as my personal experience with ER for almost a year now.
My review of EtherREGEN will publish in TAS in the December "Digital Devices" issue.
UpTone Audio ships direct worldwide and has a 30-day no-questions-asked return policy, so you can order it in, and if you don't think it provides an audible benefit that is a value at it's price, you can return it, no questions asked, for a full refund. But, I seriously doubt you will return it. As of two months ago, UpTone had sold over 1500 ERs, and only...5 had been returned. That is a return rate of 0.3%.
*– the actual router that most people use is generally provided by their ISP, and most folks don't switch this out. Instead, they install an Ethernet switch between the router if they need to connect multiple network devices.
Puma Cat
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You're welcome and thank you very much for the nice comments.
u-sound
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very helpfull indeed.
planning to enter in the world of streaming and this just saved me searching my way.
the illustration helped so much!!!!!!
planning to enter in the world of streaming and this just saved me searching my way.
the illustration helped so much!!!!!!