Need help on choosing mid range amp

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Camicasee

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Hi,
i am new in this question but run a lot of forums and got totally messed up with all the information and would be really happy if You would help me on this.

I currently have used pair of Triangle Celius ESW speakers and 300w Klipsch R-10SW subwoofer.
I am using it in pretty small room, siting position is ~ 2,7-3 m. from speaker. I have used them with used home cinema Pioneer VSX - 821 amplifier which just burned out. Now i am planning to buy stereo amplifier and need help for that.

Specifications of speakers: Triangle Celius ESW
Bi-wirable
Bass driver Triangle T16 DR110C (x2)
Mid driver Triangle T16 PP122o
Tweeter Triangle TZ202
Sensitivity (dB/W/m) = 92
Freq Response (+- 3Db) = 45Hz-20kHz
Continuous Power = 120 W - at 8 Ohms
Peak Power = 240 W - at 4 Ohms
Nominal Impedance = 8 Ohms
Minimal Impedance = 5 Ohms
Low Frequency Roll Off/Crossover = 400 Hz
High Frequency Roll Off/Crossover = 4 Hz
Dimensions = 44.5 x 8.7 x 11.7 (H x W x D)

QUESTIONS (sry if they are stupid)

First of all i want to ask dumbest question of all:
1. What is mine loudspeaker impedance 8 ohms or 4 ohms - which amplifier I should look in to at first place working with 8 Ohms or 4 Ohms.
As far as understand my loudspeakers are rated 8 Ohms, but what is confusing they are Bi-wirable (two ,,+" and two ,,-" connection on each of loudspeaker) and i don’t use this I just connect them with included metal plug connecting both minuses and pluses making one pair.

Doesn't that mean that it becomes 4 Ohms (8*8ohms/8*8ohms) ( as on same loudspeaker 2 speakers 8 ohms high speakers + other part of pair 8 Ohms are connected together)? I mean does 8 ohms are rated for whole speaker no mater u are bi wiring or not or not?

2. I have calculated I need somewhere 105-120W RMS power amplifier for channel (in calculators distance from source 3 m, desirable level ~100 dbSPL, speaker sesivity 92 db, amplifier headroom 3 db.
All mid ranged recommend stereos I can find under (500-600 eur.) are with low power output 60-80 W per channel for example Cambridge Audio CXA60. All i could find in this area to fit power needs are: Yamaha A-S701 or Yamaha R-N402D.
2.1 Is this the correct amp. Choice, maybe you can recommend some?
2.2 Do I really need such powerfull amp to power those speakers?

3. I read everywhere that if i use only 2.1 system stereo amplifier is better choice than cinema amplifiers is it really true?
Thanks a lot in advance for you answers
 
Hi and welcome - what kind of sound do you prefer? Lots of details, bombastic bass, warm sound, walloping in the midrange... Further, what kind of music do you usually listen to?


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1. I know Cellios is more for jazz not rock thing, but I actually use them a lot for home cinema (TV - Amp via optics),
like to watch sci-fiction and other movies needing base - that’s why I bought Klipsh sub. Additionally.
In overall when listening to music they are really great (when connected to PC via HDMI) for my ear.
It would be great if i could listen to music over wi-fi

2. Most important, my budged would be around ~500Eur-600Eur. (know its teardrop for audiophiles),
but I really don't want to spend a lot at this stage. To be honest I would not search for new amp
if the old one still worked J But as I need to buy new I am looking in a way to buy best price/quality ratio product, but this seems to be harder than I thought initially

3. My room is small 3.5x3.5 = ~12.25m2, and got high ceiling 2.7 m. So ~33 m3
 
Camicasee said:
1. I know Cellios is more for jazz not rock thing, but I actually use them a lot for home cinema (TV - Amp via optics),
like to watch sci-fiction and other movies needing base - that’s why I bought Klipsh sub. Additionally.
In overall when listening to music they are really great (when connected to PC via HDMI) for my ear.
It would be great if i could listen to music over wi-fi

2. Most important, my budged would be around ~500Eur-600Eur. (know its teardrop for audiophiles),
but I really don't want to spend a lot at this stage. To be honest I would not search for new amp
if the old one still worked J But as I need to buy new I am looking in a way to buy best price/quality ratio product, but this seems to be harder than I thought initially

3. My room is small 3.5x3.5 = ~12.25m2, and got high ceiling 2.7 m. So ~33 m3
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Great. I would go for some class D design with good power and grip to give you that movie experience.

In that price range e.g. Rotel might have something that would work for you.

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Hi and welcome.

I am sure you should be prepared to look for used, other than that i am not sure. As i have no experience in the field od science-fi Tv listening.
Maybe Anthem amplifier.....i am sure there will be other here with much more experience .
 
The Yamaha would be a decent amp and you shouldn't need a lot of power using a sub. I think you'll find the Yamaha will have a pleasant sound despite it's price.

NAD has integrated amps at many price points, may be worth looking into.

Cambridge has the SR80 receiver as well which has built in DAC, if memory serves it also has a sub out.

If you are planning on sticking with 2.1 a stereo amp would be better than an A/V receiver.

Good luck. And, good to have you with us.
 
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