It took a leap of faith as no shops or anybody had any I could listen to and all the reviews talk of tubby bass, but they have tone controls and side firing woofers have done better in this room. The se upgrade gave the bass more definition and raised the resolution of the system from 24/96 to 24/192 and if I ever step up to an ultra dac, dxd and dsd will become available. IDK if a system that converts all signals to digital until the last possible moment would share the virtues of a tt and tbh I gave all my old albums away years ago. Streaming is my current format.