MQA now on Tidal

Supposedly, Warner Music has finished encoding its entire music library to MQA, although as we have seen one doesn't know until you listen which mastering of a given recording you will get. I suspect Tidal just keeps adding them on a daily basis, but whether or not MQA titles end up in the "Masters" section is pretty hit or miss.

Thx. That's sort of sucks on one hand and then good on the other hand that at least they are adding more titles. Hopefully Tidal starts identifying them for us!
 
Thx. That's sort of sucks on one hand and then good on the other hand that at least they are adding more titles. Hopefully Tidal starts identifying them for us!

Do you mean you can't tell the difference between a regular "Master" title and an MQA "Master" title by looking at the list of albums under the "Master" category?
 
I totally respect your opinion as well. All that I am saying is that people should try it for themselves nothing more nothing less.

I would also even respect your opinion more once you hear it in a good system with the full implementation.

Mark, honestly I mean NO disrespect, it's a personal itch that after a week of being available for a 60 day trial you or anyone could just download Tidal, set it up (maybe 20 minutes total at most) if you have any kind of 24/96 and play it for yourself. Then let's talk about the +'s and -'s, which there are. I have several issues with the Tidal rollout and available MQA tracks in the Master section and when they are going to make more available.

I think discussing the positives and negatives, of MQA are fun and useful to others, once you have heard it. Again, if you choose not to do so, that's totally up to you, I just want to make sure that a first time reader is not put off by the "questioning" of the new technology and gives it a try for themselves.

Bob-I will try it eventually. Right now I just started reviewing the VPI Avenger table and I've had the loan of a vdh Colibri cartridge for several weeks that I have to take advantage of before I send it back next week. So for now, I don't have time to monkey with downloading another app, getting it to work, and playing around with partially unfolded MQA files. I will report back my findings at a later date.
 
Bob-I will try it eventually. Right now I just started reviewing the VPI Avenger table and I've had the loan of a vdh Colibri cartridge for several weeks that I have to take advantage of before I send it back next week. So for now, I don't have time to monkey with downloading another app, getting it to work, and playing around with partially unfolded MQA files. I will report back my findings at a later date.

Cool!!!
 
Do you mean you can't tell the difference between a regular "Master" title and an MQA "Master" title by looking at the list of albums under the "Master" category?

It's a mess:) Just kidding. You can go into the Masters list and see all 500 available MQA titles, not a problem there. BUT, then there is a spreadsheet generated list with 800 titles, including the 500 that are in the Masters list that supposedly are in the regular Tidal listings. These 300+ additional albums are not marked in anyway.

Everything in the Masters list is MQA. It's that there are MQA titles that are not in the Masters section and the only way to find them is to search for an album and if you see that the search results provide 2 or 3 different copies of the album, you have to play each of them and see if you can find the MQA, only going by what you hear.....what a PITA!

Audiophil can help with this as he knows more about this list and he has also been finding the non documented titles. Phil, help please.
 
It's a mess:) Just kidding. You can go into the Masters list and see all 500 available MQA titles, not a problem there. BUT, then there is a spreadsheet generated list with 800 titles, including the 500 that are in the Masters list that supposedly are in the regular Tidal listings. These 300+ additional albums are not marked in anyway.

Everything in the Masters list is MQA. It's that there are MQA titles that are not in the Masters section and the only way to find them is to search for an album and if you see that the search results provide 2 or 3 different copies of the album, you have to play each of them and see if you can find the MQA, only going by what you hear.....what a PITA!

Audiophil can help with this as he knows more about this list and he has also been finding the non documented titles. Phil, help please.

it appears that Tidal has failed to add all the MQA albums in the Masters list. I like you found more MQA albums outside of the Masters area. But once you search for your artist and pull up the albums on the right, clicking on play of any of the tracks will either show you at the bottom right hand corner, a HIFI or MASTERS identifier. Not very professional if you ask me, either put them all in the Masters or being able to search by some MQA identified from the main search.
 
it appears that Tidal has failed to add all the MQA albums in the Masters list. I like you found more MQA albums outside of the Masters area. But once you search for your artist and pull up the albums on the right, clicking on play of any of the tracks will either show you at the bottom right hand corner, a HIFI or MASTERS identifier.

Thx Chris, that is very helpful!
 
Looks like it may take a while for all the gears to align and come together. All the more reason to tread lightly and take MQA as it comes.
 
It is going to take some time for Tidal to work out all of the issues identifying MQA albums. Remember not all music is allowed to be streamed or sold in every country or region. Depends who owns the rights for each region. So not every MQA steam from Tidal or MQA download from Hiresauio is averrable in every country to purchase.

It is a hassle identifying which version is the MQA when the same title can be listed multiple times in Tidal. Until Tidal gets them all listed under Masters I will continue to use the Masters listings plus those additional titles contained in a spreadsheet on the Roon forum. I then play a track from each version 'till the display in my 808 shows MQA. I then tag that version for my music library.
 
It's a mess:) Just kidding. You can go into the Masters list and see all 500 available MQA titles, not a problem there. BUT, then there is a spreadsheet generated list with 800 titles, including the 500 that are in the Masters list that supposedly are in the regular Tidal listings. These 300+ additional albums are not marked in anyway.

Everything in the Masters list is MQA. It's that there are MQA titles that are not in the Masters section and the only way to find them is to search for an album and if you see that the search results provide 2 or 3 different copies of the album, you have to play each of them and see if you can find the MQA, only going by what you hear.....what a PITA!

Audiophil can help with this as he knows more about this list and he has also been finding the non documented titles. Phil, help please.
An advantage of the Lumin application is that it facilitates a lot of the search of these,
MQA albums, which are not in the Master section of Tidal Desktop.
The Jagged Little Pill search gives me the result I attached.
The second starting from the top and from the left is 44.1 / 24.
The comparison between 44.1 / 16 and 44.1 / 24 is very easy.
Thanks Lumin










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And by the way, you do not need to put it in Tidal Favorites, as we thought it was necessary to do, to reproduce 44.1 / 24 or 48/24
 
An advantage of the Lumin application is that it facilitates a lot of the search of these,
MQA albums, which are not in the Master section of Tidal Desktop.
The Jagged Little Pill search gives me the result I attached.
The second starting from the top and from the left is 44.1 / 24.
The comparison between 44.1 / 16 and 44.1 / 24 is very easy.
Thanks Lumin










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Looks like Lumin has their act together with MQA. Btw, Fransciso you have a GREAT system, I'm sure the MQA sound great on it. Love the Atrias....nice.
 
And by the way, you do not need to put it in Tidal Favorites, as we thought it was necessary to do, to reproduce 44.1 / 24 or 48/24

This was suggested because I thought it would be easier to use the desktop app to find MQA music, other than looking up the spreadsheet...
 
A different twist to my MQA equation- So I was totally smitten by the sound of MQA in my set up. Went through the several iterations, SW decoded, HW decoded, back to SW decoded waiting for my MQA DAC module which is coming in a week and now I am happily back to streaming Tidal at 16/44.1.

I enjoyed the MQA and even finding new artists in the Masters 500, BUT, BUT, BUT - I have not been enjoying my overall listening experience as much as I did when I was listening to regular Tidal. With HiFi Tidal I am listening to 20 artists that I lOVE listening to as well as finding new music that people suggest. I am not hooked on "the sound", I am hooked on "the music".

Last night I went back to listening to Agnes Obel, Angus and Julia Stone, Ben Howard, London Grammar, Malia, Miles Davis, Ben Webster, Gene Ammons and on and on. Tidal gives me all of this music and I just love the selection.....it trumps the SQ for me. Saying that you have to understand that I have optimized my system(s) around streaming Tidal via the Aurender N10 and either the MSB Select II DAC or the Goldmund Satya system. Before anyone would pass judgement they would have to hear Tidal streaming HiFi through my system(s) to understand where I am coming from.

The trick to enjoy listening to the music I love with Tidal Hifi is to not listen to the MQA right before listening the HiFi. Some sessions it will be fun to listen to the MQA, but until, if ever, the music I want to listen to is MQA'd then I will revert mostly to streaming Tidal HiFi. I did the exact same thing with vinyl, R2R, DSD and High Res PCM. They all sound "better" than Tidal HiFi if you go back and forth, BUT, if I don't listen to the other formats and just turn on Tidal HiFi I am in Sonic and more importantly "Music Heaven".....to each their own:)
 
Bob,

I agree that it's the music, not the medium for me too. I stream a lot and get ribbed for it, but I'd venture to say that I get more emotional enjoyment from my music/system than most. Heck, when I'm stuck at work, late at night and all I have are my crappy desktop speakers, I've had some of the best listening sessions.
 
bob,

i agree that it's the music, not the medium for me too. I stream a lot and get ribbed for it, but i'd venture to say that i get more emotional enjoyment from my music/system than most. Heck, when i'm stuck at work, late at night and all i have are my crappy desktop speakers, i've had some of the best listening sessions.

agreed 101%!!!
 
Joe, that's a great point. I probably would NOT buy MQA files, it's just a personal thing. I don't like buying DSD or High Res PCM either. They sounded better than 16/44.1 and I didn't buy them so even though (to me) MQA is a mind blower I would not buy MQA files, ESPECIALLY because I am a Tidal Addict......I've been a Tidal Addict for over a year and have never enjoyed music more than the last year and that goes back to the 50's and 60's!

A LOT of my enthusiasm with MQA is that it is available in Tidal. For a few days I was frustrated with the amount of Tidal/MQA albums that became available. Over the last few days I am totally happy and grateful to even have the 500 titles available in the Masters list on Tidal.

At night I've started to listen to the Masters list, at least a track or two, starting with Beyonce (that lasted 10 seconds) and then moved to the second album Sturgill Simpson, who I never even heard of and ended up listening to his entire album and really enjoyed it. I plan to at least play a track or two from all of the albums that I have never heard in the list of current 500 and search for new treasures.

Anyway, good point about buying MQA files, personally that would not make so excited.....MQA on Tidal does.

+1 I agree with Bob here. The beauty of MQA to me is that it can be streamed! I already own plenty of DSD and am not looking to own more music (other than vinyl)


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