MQA Discussion

I have several albums from 2L, but I'll admit I've never run across a music lover who doesn't like other music as well...

Don't misunderstand me, part of the reason I left Tidal was trying to find enough MQA music to appeal to me.
 
rbbert said:
........part of the reason I left Tidal was trying to find enough MQA music to appeal to me.
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So did I for the same reason and another, which is that the Tidal MQA Master albums sound too "polite" whenever I switch back to my own Flac redbook and hires files.

This leads me to conclude that whatever Meridian/MQA is doing with its internal proprietary DSP, it is making all types of music sound "polite". And the same goes for Meridian's players/dac's.
 
My iPad informed me today that MQA content will now be identifiable in Tidal through an MQA logo next to the content.

A good advancement, as I find. Have just not been able to test it yet, as I am traveling until early next week.


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Interesting to read David Chesky's impressions of MQA in this Stereophile article:

Chesky feels that MQA sounds a little more analog, relaxed, and organic sounding than other digital issues. When asked to say more about his personal impressions of the format, he opted for language clearly his own.

"Listen, what is real and what is not real? You sit in front of two boxes in your home, and it's a magic trick. But we can't say live is always better, because some halls are over-reverberant, excessively dry, or just plain bad. Sometimes, the recording sounds better than the live experience. MQA addresses digital harshness, and gets the timing and transients right. It's like walking through the woods and smelling the trees vs putting Febreze in your house."
 
audio.bill said:
Interesting to read David Chesky's impressions of MQA in this Stereophile article:

Chesky feels that MQA addresses "digital harshness"
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Same crap different day.
Myself and I'm sure countless others can enjoy Redbook and other non-mqa digital (DSD etc) for hours on end, without any such psychogenic melodrama. Chesky needs to get a decent system or go see a shrink.
 
AJ Soundfield said:
Same crap different day.
Myself and I'm sure countless others can enjoy Redbook and other non-mqa digital (DSD etc) for hours on end, without any such psychogenic melodrama. Chesky needs to get a decent system or go see a shrink.
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Can't say I find your response surprising, glad that you and countless others are satisfied listening to the sound of Redbook CDs but some others of us are not.
 
audio.bill said:
Can't say I find your response surprising, glad that you and countless others are satisfied listening to the sound of Redbook CDs but some others of us are not.
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So, those who actually hear that non-MQA music with non-MQA dac's(Vivaldi, Grandioso) sound better than MQA music with MQA dac's(Meridian 808v6) have.......er, no ears?
 
audio.bill said:
Can't say I find your response surprising, glad that you and countless others are satisfied listening to the sound of Redbook CDs but some others of us are not.
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Can't say I find your response surprising either.
Enjoy your non-redbook and non-DSD and non-etc digital. I feel Redbook addresses that vinyl noisy harshness. But of course you won't mind anyone expressing that.
 
Has MQA taken over where DSD left off? Round two: PCM vs MQA.

DSD = RIP?


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j2020 said:
So, those who actually hear that non-MQA music with non-MQA dac's(Vivaldi, Grandioso) sound better than MQA music with MQA dac's(Meridian 808v6) have.......er, no ears?
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Not at all and I never meant to imply that. We all have different systems, listening priorities and sensitivities and I fully respect everyone to hear and prefer whatever we like best. I wouldn't question other's experiences or state that someone who disagrees with my perspective to need a better system or to see a shrink.
 
Mike said:
Has MQA taken over where DSD left off? Round two: PCM vs MQA.

DSD = RIP?
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I think there is room for all of them, including vinyl, tape, etc.
I don't see why one has to die because of the other. More choices, the better. I can enjoy every one of them, without any melodrama
 
audio.bill said:
I wouldn't question other's experiences or state that someone who disagrees with my perspective to need a better system or to see a shrink.
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Oh, so you don't find "noisy harsh vinyl" to be baseless overgeneralized hyperbole. Just opinion. Cool:P
 
AJ Soundfield said:
Can't say I find your response surprising either.
Enjoy your non-redbook and non-DSD and non-etc digital. I feel Redbook addresses that vinyl noisy harshness. But of course you won't mind anyone expressing that.
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Thanks but just to be clear on my experience, I enjoy some redbook CDs, DSD and other digital formats as well as vinyl playback. I try to keep an open mind when it comes to potential improvements in the playback process. Enjoy the tunes however you choose! :audiophile:
 
AJ Soundfield said:
Oh, so you don't find "noisy harsh vinyl" to be baseless overgeneralized hyperbole. Just opinion. Cool:P
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If that's actually someone's experience I couldn't classify it as baseless, although I would be curious about the playback gear that resulted in them reaching that conclusion. It's certainly contrary to my experience but that's part of what makes this hobby so intriguing!
 
audio.bill said:
Interesting to read David Chesky's impressions of MQA in this Stereophile article:

Chesky feels that MQA sounds a little more analog, relaxed, and organic sounding than other digital issues. When asked to say more about his personal impressions of the format, he opted for language clearly his own.

"...... MQA .....gets the timing and transients right ......"
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I should put this to Chesky then.

The non-MQA dac's playing non-MQA music that actually sound better than MQA dac's playing MQA music have the timing and transients .....er, wrong?
 
audio.bill said:
Enjoy the tunes however you choose! :audiophile:
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I do! No "digital harshness" with non-mqa and no "noisy harsh vinyl" either.

I've heard way too many good examples of each to make such silly generalizations about any one of them.
No clue why Chesky et al feel it necessary to bash one to build up another, but oh well...
 
AJ Soundfield said:
Or send him to Mikes place for a full day of non-harsh, non-mqa digital from several systems at one sitting.
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Chesky said what he had to say because he has already signed up with MQA.

I still have his exemplary cd audiophile recordings of yore - Fred Hersch, Rebecca Pidgeon, David Hezeltine come to mind - and they sound better than ever with today's improved dac's. In fact, the ripped redbook flac files sound better than the cd's.
If I am not wrong, I believe he pioneered recording at high sample/bit rates that are then downsampled to 16/44 for cd production. Surely, these great recordings of his without MQA could not have been wrong in their timing and transients.

But the music business being what it is, and as he will re-release his old recordings in MQA format, he simply needs to plug MQA for the sales. The poor guy just got to do what he's got to do.

It certainly won't help his business sense to listen to Mike's system or see a shrink. :)
 
This is getting absurd. It seems everyone who gets behind MQA has an agenda and is only in it for the money while those who speak out against it are all unquestionable friggen geniuses (yes not the correct plural use).
 
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