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[Mike]

My thought pattern is these processors change so rapidly it hard to justify spending a lot. I'm satisfied with 13 channels but more importantly I did not want to get into the game of flipping a processor at that level every 18 months or so, as new video technology comes on board. To a degree the same applies to projector.
I have not put any real time into A B ing a Trinnov. My new project yeehaw.

I felt the same way about the Mc. The Trinnov is modular based and new HDMI standards or audio changes are as simple as popping in and out a board by the end user. They offer up to 16 and up to 32 channel versions. I won’t even get to 16 in my size of room, so I went in that direction. The 3D microphone it uses is pretty cool.

 

[Big B]

I'm on the hunt

 

[NekoAudio]

My thought pattern is these processors change so rapidly it hard to justify spending a lot.

Trinnov stands out from the rest in that they have been doing hardware and software upgrades without requiring you to purchase a new model. For example, recent software upgrades have added DTS:X Pro. Granted, the platform is not that old (~5 years) but its design is based on general purpose computing capabilities, which is why they're able to do this when other companies aren't. And the new releases aren't delayed much because they're considered the top brand in both features and sound quality, and therefore work directly with Dolby, DTS, etc.

And honestly once you do a comparison, you will find them worth the price.

 

[Phishphan]

Trinnov seems to be the best out there for HT. Plus it has 2 channel pass though, and balanced inputs. The ability to bypass processing, so it can also be used for music with a good external DAC sets it apart from the SP4. I thought about going this route, but kept my SP3 and added a dedicated 2 channel pre.


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[NekoAudio]

Trinnov seems to be the best out there for HT. Plus it has 2 channel pass though, and balanced inputs. The ability to bypass processing, so it can also be used for music with a good external DAC sets it apart from the SP4. I thought about going this route, but kept my SP3 and added a dedicated 2 channel pre.

The other thing you can do with the Trinnov Altitude processors is perform a calibration and create an optimizer profile and matching preset for your 2-channel setup, using the Altitude's digital output to feed your external DAC (just be careful to adjust levels to prevent digital clipping). The Altitude supports network streaming and Roon, and has several digital inputs. That being said the Altitude's analog output quality is outstanding, although you may certainly still prefer a different DAC for 2-channel listening.

 

[Mike]

Today we spent the day pulling proper wire, installing the new B&W Inwall speakers and mounting the projector. Tomorrow I have an install in Naples. Saturday I’ll tackle the Trinnov! Sunday paint and patch the holes.

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[nicoff]

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[Phishphan]

The other thing you can do with the Trinnov Altitude processors is perform a calibration and create an optimizer profile and matching preset for your 2-channel setup, using the Altitude's digital output to feed your external DAC (just be careful to adjust levels to prevent digital clipping). The Altitude supports network streaming and Roon, and has several digital inputs. That being said the Altitude's analog output quality is outstanding, although you may certainly still prefer a different DAC for 2-channel listening.

I LOVE my EMM Labs 2 channel stack. I’d need to have it pulled from my cold dead hands to switch. .. my SP3 does good HT duty when needed.


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[nicoff]

I LOVE my EMM Labs 2 channel stack. I’d need to have it pulled from my cold dead hands to switch. .. my SP3 does good HT duty when needed.


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Hmm... paraphrasing this...

"Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy."

My take would be:

“I have owned the SP3 for many years, I know the SP3 very well, the SP3 is good, but the SP3 is not Trinnov.”
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[Mike]

I was up until midnight configuring the Trinnov. The manual is as thick as a phone book for a small city. That being said, it is well written and there are certainly lots of pictures showing you the steps along the way - and that’s just for the setup wizard! The advanced features look incredibly powerful. I haven’t got to those yet.

But compared to the likes of Denon/Marantz, the setup is far more complex. The 3D microphone is really cool and they show you on a 3D Grid the measurements and placement of the speakers according to the 3D microphone. It’s spot on.

The clocking/HDMI sync on the Trinnov is very sensitive. I was without picture for about 30 minutes before I figured out what had gone wrong. Turned everything off, unplugged the Trinnov, back on again and I was back in business. What had happened was that I had turned on the small monitor to test HDMI 2 and it being a totally different resolution than the projector, must have screwed something up!

I wanted to get up and running and test everything out. I watched 20 minutes of 1917 in 4K and was blown away. The Trinnov immersive sound is the real deal. The picture quality from the JVC NX7 was outstanding.

I have a Magico S7/VAC/Critical Mass install today in Naples, but I will for sure be back to tweaking things on Saturday.

 

[NekoAudio]

The clocking/HDMI sync on the Trinnov is very sensitive. I was without picture for about 30 minutes before I figured out what had gone wrong. Turned everything off, unplugged the Trinnov, back on again and I was back in business. What had happened was that I had turned on the small monitor to test HDMI 2 and it being a totally different resolution than the projector, must have screwed something up!

You can try connecting your projector to HDMI 2 and your small monitor to HDMI 1, as I believe HDMI 2 is the master output and HDMI 1 will downscale. Also, if you run into video sync issues you can sometimes switch the source input until it locks on, and then switch back. I've seen that happen if the display EDID dynamically changes, or if the source output dynamically changes.

 

[Mike]

You can try connecting your projector to HDMI 2 and your small monitor to HDMI 1, as I believe HDMI 2 is the master output and HDMI 1 will downscale. Also, if you run into video sync issues you can sometimes switch the source input until it locks on, and then switch back. I've seen that happen if the display EDID dynamically changes, or if the source output dynamically changes.

Thanks! I’ll for sure try that. We are just heading back now from the install.

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[UltraFast69]

Thanks! I’ll for sure try that. We are just heading back now from the install.

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Like seeing the Hendrix picture in a nice home, style!


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[Mr Peabody]

Just some trivia, in 2015 JBL and Trinnov entered into a partnership on JBL Synthesis HT processors. I think now the more expensive models of JBL have Trinnov tech where the lower model is Arcam.

Just curious Mike, are all the speakers in your install in-wall or just those for Atmos? If all are in-wall, what is your impression of the dispersion for surround sound?

 

[Mike]

Just some trivia, in 2015 JBL and Trinnov entered into a partnership on JBL Synthesis HT processors. I think now the more expensive models of JBL have Trinnov tech where the lower model is Arcam.

Just curious Mike, are all the speakers in your install in-wall or just those for Atmos? If all are in-wall, what is your impression of the dispersion for surround sound?

Great question. I have four 7 series B&W Inwall speakers with back boxes, four 7 series B&W ceiling (height) speakers, B&W HTM1 D3 center, two B&W DB1D subs and of course, my MBL 101e Mk2’s for front left and right.

I’m very very happy with the Inwall w/back boxes. Note the term back box is misleading as the box actually attached to the bottom of the speaker. The purpose of the back box is for bass response.

The Trinnov is so freaking good I can’t believe it. So powerful. So complex!


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[nicoff]

Great question. I have four 7 series B&W Inwall speakers with back boxes, four 7 series B&W ceiling (height) speakers, B&W HTM1 D3 center, two B&W DB1D subs and of course, my MBL 101e Mk2’s for front left and right.

I’m very very happy with the Inwall w/back boxes. Note the term back box is misleading as the box actually attached to the bottom of the speaker. The purpose of the back box is for bass response.

The Trinnov is so freaking good I can’t believe it. So powerful. So complex!


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How well do the MBL integrate with the rest of B&W speakers given that they are so different?

The Trinnov can do Auro-3D decoding. Have you tried that setting for music listening yet? There are discs that come encoded with Auro. But I understand that the Trinnov can also convert any Dolby Atmos discs to Auro-3D. Have you tried that yet?

Very interested is hearing your experience with the Trinnov.

 

[Mike]

How well do the MBL integrate with the rest of B&W speakers given that they are so different?

The Trinnov can do Auro-3D decoding. Have you tried that setting for music listening yet? There are discs that come encoded with Auro. But I understand that the Trinnov can also convert any Dolby Atmos discs to Auro-3D. Have you tried that yet?

Very interested is hearing your experience with the Trinnov.

The MBL’s are so great for audio, that I just couldn’t give them up anytime soon. The 800D3’s of course would integrate with the rest better, but...the MBL’s are so amazing for 2 channel audio.

I haven’t tried the Auro-3D - yet!


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[apdoc2004]

Mike,

It would interesting to try the Trinnov as a preamp (without using its advanced features) for 2-channel listening and compare it to your current high end preamp.
Anshul

Great question. I have four 7 series B&W Inwall speakers with back boxes, four 7 series B&W ceiling (height) speakers, B&W HTM1 D3 center, two B&W DB1D subs and of course, my MBL 101e Mk2’s for front left and right.

I’m very very happy with the Inwall w/back boxes. Note the term back box is misleading as the box actually attached to the bottom of the speaker. The purpose of the back box is for bass response.

The Trinnov is so freaking good I can’t believe it. So powerful. So complex!


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[nicoff]

Mike,

It would interesting to try the Trinnov as a preamp (without using its advanced features) for 2-channel listening and compare it to your current high end preamp.
Anshul

I would be interested too. But it would be good to also do 2-channel plus Trinnov DSP correction to compare (Trinnov DSP that uses the 3D microphone is supposed to be the best in the market).

 

[Mike Lavigne]

i have a Trinnov Altitude 16 now incoming for my Home Theater. it replaces an Anthem AVM60. i've had my separate Home Theater for years; three years ago i did update my video side to a good high level. now it's the audio side's turn.

i'll be switching from a 7.2.4 Revel speaker set-up, to 9.3.6 speaker set-up with 3 Funk Audio 18.0 subwoofers. the sources will be Roon, an Oppo 203, plus a Kaleidascape movie server.

my goal is to optimize my room for immersive codecs, and once i've got everything in place and tweaked, to see how close high level dsp immersive music might compare to my high level 2 channel room.