Maybe it’s always been like this…

2FarGone

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I’ve been buying and/or selling used gear for well over 30 years now. Other than my first experience with the buyer from Hell (which resulted in a 10 year retreat), most of my 35-40 transactions have been good, although there’s also little doubt that first fiasco made me a good deal more cautious about who I actually do business with.

Lately though, it seems the playing field has deteriorated. Even with following my normal process (phone call, no alarm bells) on my next-to-last transaction with a very expensive item I felt the item was misrepresented (it was advertised as perfect in all ways), and the seller of an item I was interested in buying recently has now flaked - gone radio silent after I told him okay, let’s do this. I wasn’t out any cash thankfully, but I had invested a fair amount of time in researching his somewhat obscure product. Sellers don’t appreciate having their time wasted, but neither do buyers, and I’ve been on both sides roughly equally.

Maybe it’s always been so and I just got lucky after that first disaster, but some of the postings I’ve seen on another audio marketing website make clear to me that, for some of these people, personal adherence to a high ethical standard is not a priority.

The dealers here may be inclined to say I told you so, but has anything really changed or was it always like this? Have the standards and protocols changed while I wasn’t looking? It wouldn’t be the first time I missed a cultural shift.
 
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I’ve been buying and/or selling used gear for well over 30 years now. Other than my first experience with the buyer from Hell (which resulted in a 10 year retreat), most of my 35-40 transactions have been good, although there’s also little doubt that first fiasco made me a good deal more cautious about who I actually do business with.

Lately though, it seems the playing field has deteriorated. Even with following my normal process (phone call, no alarm bells) on my next-to-last transaction with a very expensive item I felt the item was misrepresented (it was advertised as perfect in all ways), and the seller of an item I was interested in buying recently has now flaked - gone radio silent after I told him okay, let’s do this. I wasn’t out any cash thankfully, but I had invested a fair amount of time in researching his somewhat obscure product. Sellers don’t appreciate having their time wasted, but neither do buyers, and I’ve been on both sides roughly equally.

Maybe it’s always been so and I just got lucky after that first disaster, but some of the postings I’ve seen on another audio marketing website make clear to me that, for some of these people, personal adherence to a high ethical standard is not a priority.

The dealers here may be inclined to say I told you so, but has anything really changed or was it always like this? Have the standards and protocols changed while I wasn’t looking? It wouldn’t be the first time I missed a cultural shift.

I don't think it's always been like that. I think society in general has lost its moral compass to a large extent.

Everyone is allowed to be a victim. Everyone is 'owed' something. Every has a right to "their truth" rather than reality.
 
I don't think it's always been like that. I think society in general has lost its moral compass to a large extent.

Everyone is allowed to be a victim. Everyone is 'owed' something. Every has a right to "their truth" rather than reality.
So true, Michael. Another thing to consider: I truly believe that the Covid experiment made some (not all) people rude, self centered and maybe even a bit crazy.

Glad we don't have any of that going on here at AS.
 
I think the internet and social media are much to blame. People can sit behind a keyboard and lob insults without actually looking their target in the eye-false courage. Consider how often the words "fool," "idiot," "stupid," show up on the audio forums and its a clue. Somehow, folks think that stuff makes them sound smart or tough, when the opposite is true. Doesn't seem to be as prevalent when people are face to face, but social media enables bad behavior.
 
On the preowned side of the business we see shenanigans every day. We get firm offers for something on audiogon, we accept and then crickets. Never to be heard from again. Audiogon gives them a “strike”. Ok, whatever, they create a new profile and rock on.
 
On the preowned side of the business we see shenanigans every day. We get firm offers for something on audiogon, we accept and then crickets. Never to be heard from again. Audiogon gives them a “strike”. Ok, whatever, they create a new profile and rock on.

Nothing has changed and covid can't be blamed for this behavior. Liars and cheats have been around forever.
 
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