Now they are owned by a big company and the make mediocre speakers except for the overpriced NeolithI had the opportunity to visit Lawrence in 1995 for a factory tour and sales training while working at United Audio Centers in IL. Even got to have dinner at Gayle Sanders' house. It only took a few months to sell enough Martin Logans to win a pair of Aerius i and become I life long Martin Logan owner. I'm on my 4th pair now. Hearing the CLSIIz in the their listening room was a life changing experience for me.