Magico S3 mk2

The Sandman said:
They recommend against it. They suggest burn-in with normal listening.
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I understand why Magico would caution against the use of burn in cd's. It's intended to save those few idiots out there from themselves. That is those dim wits who borrow a burn in cd uploaded to Napster by a Botswanan exchange student & play it at ear-splitting levels 'because the instructions told me to'. That said, I'm pretty sure a company like Purist Audio Design wouldn't stake their reputation on a dud product which could damage the very high end speakers their cables are designed to partner with.
 
Melbguy1 said:
I understand why Magico would caution against the use of burn in cd's. It's intended to save those few idiots out there from themselves. That is those dim wits who borrow a burn in cd uploaded to Napster by a Botswanan exchange student & play it at ear-splitting levels 'because the instructions told me to'. That said, I'm pretty sure a company like Purist Audio Design wouldn't stake their reputation on a dud product which could damage the very high end speakers their cables are designed to partner with.
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Yeah, the question I was answering was specific - what is Magico's stance on burn-in CD's. I'm sure plenty of people use them anyway - I've seen posts indicating that around the net. I personally only use music - why take chances? But I haven't heard of any Magico's exploding from improper burn-in CD's FWIW.
 
Howard is a friend and client of mine. He has improved his overall system, power distribution, sources, amps, speakers, isolation, cabling and most importantly, his room to unbelievable levels. It's an absolute joy to listen to. If there was an award for "most improved system", Howard would win hands down.


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Well, the mk2:s. They are now under repeat play for the days. They have a grand total of 20 hrs of play time now on them. My S3:s had approx. 700 hours when they left.

So, straight out of cardboard boxes (which, at least for my set, were in quite a state and one of the grilles was bent, but that´s another story), I´d say they are quite an evolution. If that translates ito revolution, that remains to be seen and heard.

The tweeter is a definite improvement over the mk 1:s. So is the overall balance and neutrality, even now. There is more bass, but I guess the bass is going to improve most.

Even now, it is a better speaker, more coherent and lifelike, I can´t wait to hear it even 70% broken-in.

Expensive? Yes, for my money it is. Guess I just don´t have enough money :) Worth it over the mk 1?? For me, definitely. YMMV, tho.
 
Not far behind you, mine should come next week.


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I surely hope they do.

When I got the mk1s I thought: yes fancy, a wooden box.

After I had to store that monster for a while I am thinking: yes much more practical, two cardboard boxes.


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walesi said:
Well, the mk2:s. They are now under repeat play for the days. They have a grand total of 20 hrs of play time now on them. My S3:s had approx. 700 hours when they left.

So, straight out of cardboard boxes (which, at least for my set, were in quite a state and one of the grilles was bent, but that´s another story), I´d say they are quite an evolution. If that translates ito revolution, that remains to be seen and heard.

The tweeter is a definite improvement over the mk 1:s. So is the overall balance and neutrality, even now. There is more bass, but I guess the bass is going to improve most.

Even now, it is a better speaker, more coherent and lifelike, I can´t wait to hear it even 70% broken-in.

Expensive? Yes, for my money it is. Guess I just don´t have enough money :) Worth it over the mk 1?? For me, definitely. YMMV, tho.
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Congratulations. Your patience through break in will be rewarded even more. The S3 mk2 hits the sweet spot in the Magico line up. Great fun speaker that disappears.
 
Melbguy1 said:
Maybe so, but then the S5 Mk2 hit the S3 Mk2 back...several times :trouble: :lol:.
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The S3 mk2 is the technologically more sophisticated speaker. The graphene woofers surpass what older generation aluminum woofers can do by a very big margin. See all the M series products.


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Kuoppis said:
The S3 mk2 is the technologically more sophisticated speaker. The graphene woofers surpass what older generation aluminum woofers can do by a very big margin. See all the M series products.
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Technologically more sophisticated? Sure, I'll buy that. Surpass what older generation aluminum woofer can do by a very big margin? Not so much. I don't believe graphene woofers outperform aluminum woofers per se, although with their stiffness and light weight they are somewhat faster and more efficient. And I believe they have a different sound, perhaps a "more evolved" sound, but I don't think that it's "better" sound.... certainly not for rock music or percussion heavy music of any type.. I think the main benefit of the graphene woofer in these speakers is that the sound character is more consistent between woofer and midrange, and I think this difference is more significant with smaller woofers.

Regardless of technological sophistication and despite having older generation aluminum woofers, I can assure you that the S5 Mk2 sounds noticeably better than the S3 Mk2, and that the S7 sounds better than the S3 Mk2 by a very large margin.
 
Well, the world viewed from an aluminum cone owner perspective [emoji3].


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Kuoppis said:
Well, the world viewed from an aluminum cone owner perspective [emoji3].
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I've heard them all... I live near Mike, remember? Believe me, the speakers with graphene woofers that people compare with S7 are M-Pros and M3s, not S3 Mk2. The S7's hold their own in this crowd and, depending on listening preferences, may be the best choice. The S3 Mk2 can't compete at that level, nor should they be expected to.

The Q7 Mk2 manages to get by with aluminum woofers and so do the Magico subwoofers. Just sayin'.
 
Well, because the aluminum woofers are the better ones, M Pro, M6, M3 do have graphene? Q7 mk2 are an old design, so they don't really count.

I know, it sucks.


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'Better' is also a function of environment. In my room (15' x 18' x 8' highest) S7s would be too much, and S5 Mk IIs might also overload. So for me, the S3 Mk IIs are a best fit.
 
GSOphile said:
'Better' is also a function of environment. In my room (15' x 18' x 8' highest) S7s would be too much, and S5 Mk IIs might also overload. So for me, the S3 Mk IIs are a best fit.
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Smart comment, exactly the same situation here.

I actually discussed it with Yair Tammam in Munich and he recommended me to stick to the S3 mk2, as that is the right fit for my room.


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These were Adam (Elberoth's) thoughts posted in your earlier thread..

Elberoth said:
Having owned S5 mk 1 and S5 mk 2 and having heard the S3 mk 1 and S3 mk 2 on a few ocasions now, I'm affraid the answer is ... no.

The S5 mk 2 is much more capable in terms of dynamics, goes deeper and sounds more efortless too. It also sounds a bit purer in the mids and HF, which I derectly atribute to more substantial box (the S5's speaker front baffle is twice as thick vs that of the S3, which translates to a more stable, quiter platform to attach the drivers to).

That said, the S3 mk 2 is still terrific speaker at a much more affordable price point. It may be a better fit into a small rooms. IMO it has everything to become their best selling model.
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