Magico S3 mk2

walesi said:
Yes, for the time being it is. And, the mk 2:s being as good as they are, who cares :)
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I agree! They were sounding so good at Munich too. You couldn't get in the room!


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I am delighted they come in cardboard boxes now, the one big wooden monster for the S3 mk1 was a real pain to store.


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Kuoppis said:
I am delighted they come in cardboard boxes now, the one big wooden monster for the S3 mk1 was a real pain to store.


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also to travel three storeys up the stairs... :S
i also ordered the m cast and hoped it will be in cardboard boxes and not that Huge wooden crates.
(it also lowered the shipping fees a bit)
 
Kuoppis said:
I am delighted they come in cardboard boxes now, the one big wooden monster for the S3 mk1 was a real pain to store.
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True. But when you go to sell your S3 mk1 to upgrade to something else in the Magico stable you'll be glad you did store that one big wooden monster, as painful as it was to store.
 
That's what I did, and still happy I don't have to do it again.


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walesi said:
This is a bit off-topic perhaps. Mike, could you comment the S3/2 versus M3 sonically, now that you have experienced both of them? TIA.
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I'm not sure it's even fair to compare given that the S3 mk2's are $28,000 and the M3's (with MPOD's) are ~$85,000. But I will tell you that the M series sounds nothing like the S series, nor the Q series. As much as a departure in sound as the S series was from the Q series, the M series is much more so.

The S series brought many new fans into the Magico camp. The M series sound doubles that and then some. I can't tell you the number of people who first listened to the M3's and said, "oh, I once heard those Q5's. I wasn't really a fan. But these are awesome. I love these." They truly do not sound anything alike (Q v S v M). The Carbon Fiber in the M series has a sound all on its own and a measured ability to bring even more detail and nuances out of the music. When I saw him this week, Alon explained at length some of the lower distortion measured benefits of using carbon fiber, combined with the SOTA M series drivers and overall cabinet construction. But it's also very expensive to build.

On the bass front, the S3 mk2 produces *more* bass. The M3 has the edge for bass definition. The S3 mk2 has a slightly airier, fleet of foot sound, whereas the M3 has better coherence and weight. Both equally disappear well. Both are equally easy to drive. Both work great in small, medium or medium-large rooms. Both have great seamless sounds between the midrange and tweeter. They both produce that great Magico bass. If you're coming from another speaker where you are use to the puffy sounding "WOOF WOOF WOOF" ported bass, you may think there is "less bass", but the reality is, you are for the first time hearing REAL bass with a Magico. Better defined bass. Bass where you can follow along with the actual bass notes.

They are both excellent in their respective price brackets and I would be happy to own either one depending on my budget.
 
Mike said:
...I will tell you that the M series sounds nothing like the S series, nor the Q series.
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I get where you're coming from Mike, but I disagree... to a degree at least. The M, Q, and S series do sound different from each other, but they are all recognizable as having a "Magico sound" that is different from virtually all other brands of speakers.
 
Mike said:
The Carbon Fiber in the M series has a sound all on its own and a measured ability to bring even more detail and nuances out of the music.
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I think Alon is a little late to the party trying to introduce carbon fibre as something novel. The material has been around for ages and has been used for years by Wilson Benesch and many others.



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Kuoppis said:
I think Alon is a little late to the party trying to introduce carbon fibre as something novel. The material has been around for ages and has been used for years by Wilson Benesch and many others.



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That's true. I don't think he's claiming to be the first, just always finding new ways to improve Magico products. I would be curious to know how Magico is using Carbon Fibre vs others. For example, a complete wrap vs just sides, etc.
 
walesi said:
TY Mike! I don't expect to get M3 sound for S3 money, but it was good to hear your opinion. I'm trying to find a dealer who has demo M3:s, just to hear them. None in Finland, I have to see what Sweden and Norway have to offer. Germany perhaps?
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Not sure. I hope you get to hear them one day. I can't wait to hear the M6's.
 
Mike said:
That's true. I don't think he's claiming to be the first, just always finding new ways to improve Magico products. I would be curious to know how Magico is using Carbon Fibre vs others. For example, a complete wrap vs just sides, etc.
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Isn't WB also using a monocoque approach, like Magico now in the M6?


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