Magico M3 v Gryphon Trident II v YG Sonja 2.2

[Jim Smith]

In your opinion, G1S is better than M3?

On an absolute basis - aside from the concerns noted in my previous post - I would say yes, with the proviso that the room is large enough. It's not a speaker for a middle-to-small room, where the M3 would reign supreme. Also would not place other Vivid models above M3.

I state this not as some incontrovertible fact, but merely my opinion.

 

[gtl]

Listening to my Vivid G3 now. Absolutely love it still. The G1S at my dealer's place was noticeably better. But I do agree on the room size requirement. If you have the space, I would think its hard to beat.

 

[nicoff]

Short wall. AT LEAST 31 inches from the middle of the speaker to the side wall. 40-42 inches is better,

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Mike, I noticed that MBL recommends that the distance between the speakers (on center) not exceed 3.5 meters (roughly 11'-6"). Do you feel that to be the case?
If that is true, in a room with a front wall that is 20 feet long, then the minimum distance to the side wall would be about 51 inches. Thats because in a large room the controlling dimension would become the distance center-to-center between speakers as opposed to distance to side wall?

 

[Mike]

Yes. I agree with that. Min distance to side wall is 31 inches from middle of Speaker to wall.


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[still-one]

The Wilson Alexia II has been getting almost universally strong reviews. I'd check this one out. Rockport is also a very strong brand but unsure of availability in Singapore.

Get with Ron Ong at Coherence Audio. As I remember they are a Rockport dealer. Ron is a great guy. While there check out the MBL's.

 

[LVB]

Always thought the bass was wacky on the big Vivids; I don’t buy the “they need a big room” argument, these speakers need to work in a room, in a house, not a ballroom (They had bass issues in Munich as well, where the rooms are big). It’s merely a problematic design, that is all. Midrange is beautiful, but highs are raspy.

 

[Jim Smith]

Always thought the bass was wacky on the big Vivids; I don’t buy the “they need a big room” argument, these speakers need to work in a room, in a house, not a ballroom (They had bass issues in Munich as well, where the rooms are big). It’s merely a problematic design, that is all. Midrange is beautiful, but highs are raspy.

:skeptical:...whatever...

 

[LVB]

:skeptical:...whatever...

https://www.stereophile.com/content/vivid-audio-giya-g1-spirit-loudspeaker-measurements

Look at the measurements, almost 15 db more output below 150Hz (in-room, but what start with a 5 db boost anechoic can get out of control in-room in a compromised design). Interesting, you can also see the tweeter "less then optimal” performance.

 

[Mike]

https://www.stereophile.com/content/vivid-audio-giya-g1-spirit-loudspeaker-measurements

Look at the measurements, almost 15 db more output below 150Hz (in-room, but what start with a 5 db boost anechoic can get out of control in-room in a compromised design). Interesting, you can also see the tweeter "less then optimal” performance.

The G3 S2 was even too much in a 19 x 25. I heard the G1 in a small room at Axpona and it sounded like 12 cheap subwoofers were in the room. They need a very big room or a lot of patience.


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[Mordante]

His room is medium.

Adding subs in this case is not about super deep bass. It's about increased presence & spatial quality.

What is considered a small, medium or big room? Small I would say is 3*4meters, medim anything up to 6*8meters large would be above that.