Magico M3 Review (mini)

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SOURCE: http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/m3-loudspeaker-magico-makes-things-better/

By Jonathan Valin of The Absolute Sound

After complaining about the (un)availability of Magico’s superb, limited-edition, $129k M Project loudspeaker (see my review in Issue 255 or online at http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/magico-m-project-loudspeaker/), I am happy to report that Alon Wolf has done something to make things better. No, he hasn’t built more M Pros, but he has launched an entirely new line of loudspeakers based on the driver and enclosure innovations first seen in the Pro.

On a visit to the Bay Area in late August, I spent the better part of two days listening to my own vinyl (I brought some 20 LPs) and select digital files through the first offering in Magico’s new M Series lineup—the $75k M3 three-way, five-driver, sealed-box floorstander—and if this new speaker is representative of what’s in store for Magico fans, you’re going to want to give the M’s a long listen.

Wolf claims that the M3 is the most technologically sophisticated speaker he has made. In fact, he thinks it is his best work—but then he always thinks his newest babies are his best work. This time, however, he might be right.

The M Pro aside, the M3 certainly sounds different than previous Magicos in ways that are, to my ear, entirely for the better. Though neutral in balance and still blessed with the ultra-high transparency, speed, and resolution that are Magico hallmarks, the M3 has the same strong taste of natural timbral warmth and sweetness from the bass through the treble that I’ve grown used to with the Pro. However, it does something else that even the Pro doesn’t do to the same extent—the M3 pulls off a disappearing act that sets a new high for Magico multiways, and a soundstage of dimensions that set a new standard for me in all-dynamic floorstanders.

My jaw literally dropped when I listened to The Weavers at Carnegie Hall, a record that (God knows) I’ve heard heard a few times, as the seemingly vast reaches of Carnegie opened up behind the M3s with a width, depth, height, and volume unparalleled from a three-way cone loudspeaker. For once, Carnegie actually sounded like Carnegie. Venue, audience, musicians, and instruments were equally “there”—the hall huge and filled with joyous listeners sitting at various heights and depths, running from the orchestra level up to “glee club” in the top tier of old Carnegie’s wedding-cake layout, the timbres warm and natural, the transients with the genuine snap of gut-and-steel strings, and the individual voices and instruments imaged as clearly as if you were staring at them in a large-format photograph. This is the kind of densely populated, three-dimensionally immersive, wrap-around stage that I’ve only heard in the past with the MBL 101 X-treme Radialstrahler and the slim-line, quasi-line-source Raidho D5.1 (both of which cost a quarter-of-a-million dollars)—and I’m not sure either of those were quite this immersive.

Of course, Wolf’s custom-made, reflection-free listening room clearly had something to do with this extraordinary staging and imaging. And I’ll have to wait to get the M3s in my own reflection-filled listening room to see if I can duplicate the feat. (For the record, I can’t quite do it with my reference M Pro/JL Audio Gotham system, which costs considerably more than the M3, or even the M3 paired with QSub15s.) But a good deal of this standard-setting soundstaging has nothing to do with Magico’s bespoke digs and everything to do with the M3’s new enclosure, which is clearly the best the company has engineered.

Derived from the Pro (with an added fillip taken from the S Series and a new innovation in driver coupling), the M3’s box uses Magico’s traditional, massive, damped aluminum front, rear, and bottom panels—and its elaborate, bolted-together, aluminum latticework/substructure inside the cabinet—but adds curved carbon-fiber side panels à la the M Pro and a brand-new aluminum top cap (not found in the M Pro) that has a machined-in curve to it. The physical result is the most aerodynamic, diffraction-free enclosure Magico has yet come up with, and the sonic result is the standard-setting disappearing act and soundstaging I just reported on.

There is an additional benefit to Magico’s best-ever, lowest-diffraction enclosure that can be heard in the seamless blend between the tweeter and the midrange and the natural warmth of timbres (orchestral strings, such as those on the great RCA recording Rhapsodies with Stokowski and the RCA Symphony of the Air, are simply and breathtakingly gorgeous), though this may also be due to refinements in the driver complement. Indeed, while similar to the M Pro, the M3 uses somewhat more sophisticated drivers than the Pro—its three 7" woofers, have later-gen graphene diaphragms (said to be 20% lighter and 300% stiffer than the nanotube-carbon cone material used in the Pro)—and a new and improved driver mounting system that employs a solid copper gasket to maximize coupling to the chassis and minimize the transference of resonances. The large 28mm diamond-coated beryllium tweeter (the same one used in Q7 Mk II) is also an improvement over the tweet in the M Pro. The other driver in the M3—the 6" graphene-diaphragm midrange—is the same as that in the Pro, and Magico has included the same polymer sub-enclosure for the midrange found in the Pro (and derived from the S Series), which is said to enhance control and articulation, not that Magicos ever wanted for such things.

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The fact that the M3 uses three 7" woofers, rather than the three 10-inchers found in the M Pro, makes for a slight difference in power-range fullness and low-bass extension (the M3 is said to play on its own into the upper 30s) vis-à-vis the Pro, though the difference is surprisingly small and can be completely eliminated by adding a pair of $22k QSub 15s or $12k JL Audio Gothams to the package, crossed over around 45-55Hz. (For all sorts of reasons, I’m all in favor of using really good subwoofers, like the Magico Qs or the JL Audio Gothams, with full-range loudspeakers.) With the QSubs in and Soulution electronics driving the entire she-bang, I would be hard pressed to say that I heard a substantial difference between the M3s and the M Pros on a powerful, deep-reaching pop cut like “I’m the Man to Be” from El Vy’s Return to the Moon. No, you don’t get all the midbass slam you may be used to from a ported loudspeaker, but you will still get goosebump-raising power, sub-20Hz extension, lifelike tone color unobscured by port resonance, and the peerless bass-range clarity of a sealed box.

All told, the M3 is the most exciting new product from Magico since the revolutionary M Pro, whose legacy it continues and, in many important ways, improves upon. For those of you hungering for the virtually un-obtainable Pro (only 50 pairs of which were built, most of them pre-sold), Wolf and Co. have finally provided an option that can be listened to and purchased. Whether you’re in the market for such an expensive item or not, this is a loudspeaker you need to hear—something wonderful made better. I will have a full report on the M3 when I receive review samples.

SOURCE: http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/m3-loudspeaker-magico-makes-things-better/

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Tremendous review, Mike.

"Indeed, while similar to the M Pro, the M3 uses somewhat more sophisticated drivers than the Pro—its three 7" woofers, have later-gen graphene diaphragms (said to be 20% lighter and 300% stiffer than the nanotube-carbon cone material used in the Pro)—and a new and improved driver mounting system that employs a solid copper gasket to maximize coupling to the chassis and minimize the transference of resonances. The large 28mm diamond-coated beryllium tweeter (the same one used in Q7 Mk II) is also an improvement over the tweet in the M Pro."

I rest my case.

Ken
 
I find his reference comparing the M3's to MBL 101 Xtreme's (my favorite speakers of all time) very interesting. I thought the M3's sounded like GIANT SoundLabs, but with wicked dynamics, that could play loud, with laser-like precision, driver integration perfection, outstanding bass definition and a tweeter that's easily among the best in the business.

Biggest surprise? How good the driver integration was and how good the bass was. I wasn't expecting the bass to be THAT good, proving once again, don't judge a book by its cover or by specs. Many people said, "oh, 7 inch drivers...bass won't be that good." HA! Try again.

With or without the Q-Sub 15's, they are keepers.
 
Great review -- Jonathan Valin does have a way with words, especially when it comes to conveying the merit of a product which he thinks is a cut above the rest of the competition.
With this out in the open, it is bound to have a significant negative impact on the resale value of the Mpros. I am sure more than a few Mpro owners will get the itch to try out this speaker which is significantly cheaper & now thought to be better. That is got to be a bummer!

Anshul
 
Tremendous review, Mike.

"Indeed, while similar to the M Pro, the M3 uses somewhat more sophisticated drivers than the Pro—its three 7" woofers, have later-gen graphene diaphragms (said to be 20% lighter and 300% stiffer than the nanotube-carbon cone material used in the Pro)—and a new and improved driver mounting system that employs a solid copper gasket to maximize coupling to the chassis and minimize the transference of resonances. The large 28mm diamond-coated beryllium tweeter (the same one used in Q7 Mk II) is also an improvement over the tweet in the M Pro."

I rest my case.

Ken

"Wolf claims that the M3 is the most technologically sophisticated speaker he has made. In fact, he thinks it is his best work—but then he always thinks his newest babies are his best work. This time, however, he might be right."

Gee, another M5/Q5 scenario.

Now the people who paid
$129k for the limited-edition M Projects are left holding the bag.
 
"Wolf claims that the M3 is the most technologically sophisticated speaker he has made. In fact, he thinks it is his best work—but then he always thinks his newest babies are his best work. This time, however, he might be right."

Gee, another M5/Q5 scenario.

Now the people who paid
$129k for the limited-edition M Projects are left holding the bag.

Marketing hyperbole. I doubt there will be many (if any) MPro owners willing to trade the MPros for the M3.
 
"Wolf claims that the M3 is the most technologically sophisticated speaker he has made. In fact, he thinks it is his best work—but then he always thinks his newest babies are his best work. This time, however, he might be right."

Gee, another M5/Q5 scenario.

Now the people who paid
$129k for the limited-edition M Projects are left holding the bag.

Hi Dan,

I don't see it that way at all. The M-Project owners got Magico's latest cutting edge technology at the time they purchased them and they got exclusivity as only a limited number of them were produced. With a R&D driven company such as Magico, new and improved models with technological advances will continually be coming out. The company is under no obligation to provide upgrades to their models, although it is a nice feature when they offer that option. New improved models will eventually usurp older models at all companies, not just Magico.

Best,
Ken
 
Hi Dan,

I don't see it that way at all. The M-Project owners got Magico's latest cutting edge technology at the time they purchased them and they got exclusivity as only a limited number of them were produced. With a R&D driven company such as Magico, new and improved models with technological advances will continually be coming out. The company is under no obligation to provide upgrades to their models, although it is a nice feature when they offer that option. New improved models will eventually usurp older models at all companies, not just Magico.

Best,
Ken

Just ask the Raidho folks! :audiophile:
 
Just ask the Raidho folks! :audiophile:

Yes, Raidho updates their models often. But you have to give them a lot of credit for offering an upgrade path on all Diamond models for their Point 1 Series.

Best,
Ken
 
Yes, Raidho updates their models often. But you have to give them a lot of credit for offering an upgrade path on all Diamond models for their Point 1 Series.

Best,
Ken

Yes. Albeit not inexpensive, but at least a path, agreed.


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Like JV, I listen to MPros on a daily basis and like him, I heard the M3's in Magico's room (just a couple days after him). To me it sounded like my MPros, but in a much larger room (i.e. speakers much further apart resulting in a much wider soundstage).

I really liked what I heard. More so with vinyl than digital (and not because I have a format preference). Unlike JV, I didn't get to play my own LPs, but I certainly didn't come away wishing I could have M3s over my MPros. Too many variables; I would have to hear both speakers in the same room with same electronics to form any comparison.

I am happy the M3 exists. More people will get to enjoy this technology.
 
Interesting that the JV visit was only a few days before yours.
In JV's picture you can clearly see MIT speaker cables. When you guys were there that changed to Tara. I wonder why?
 
Interesting that the JV visit was only a few days before yours.
In JV's picture you can clearly see MIT speaker cables. When you guys were there that changed to Tara. I wonder why?

He was just trying them out. Alon has lots of different cables to play with and test with I'm sure.


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Yes I'm sure he has lots of cables but I've never seen a picture of his rooms, factory or shows, that didn't have MIT in use.........
 
Agreed Ken – it was great Raidho provided a pathway for all D-series loudspeakers to be upgraded to latest .1 model thereby not only offering their customers a material improvement in sound quality, but also protecting their investment, noting that older non-upgradable models depreciate much faster, something that appears almost universally true as we’ve recently evidenced with Magico S-series loudspeakers.

The other key difference for Raidho is how they look after their top tier D-5 customers. Raidho are prepared to visit you personally to undertake the upgrade. Raidho are travelling more than 10,000 km for some upgrades and I don’t believe Magico are doing the same for their Q7 customers.

The upgrade cost is not inexpensive as Mike points out – but relative to a US$20k tweeter upgrade for a Magico Q7 I think it is reasonable.




It will be interesting to read of what Valin makes of the M3 in his own digs. I doubt he will be able to replicate the same results as he experienced at Magico’s custom made listening room, but what is of greater personal interest is how the Magicos stack up against Valin’s reference Raidhos.

Valin's references are also (??) Magico M Pro's. I think his D5's are now playing second fiddle to his M Pro's with giant JL Audio Gotham subs. That's what I'm reading in his latest reviews anyway. Maybe others can chime in.


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