Lumin X1 Review

My first day with Lumin X1
A supprise, a USB key can be used for music playback.
I though it was a output connection only .
I will try to use this input with my laptop and JRiver in the future.
I have to get use to the Lumin app....
 
Peter, just got an X1 and it sounds fantastic! Running it straight into my amp and it is too loud. Any chance that a future firmware will allow lowering the output voltage to various levels to match amp?
 
hi Peter

From people's feedback, do you think playing stored music (e.g. on L1) sounds better than streaming since it does not depend on the internet? Is it a clear improvement?

thanks, Jay
 
chungjh said:
hi Peter

From people's feedback, do you think playing stored music (e.g. on L1) sounds better than streaming since it does not depend on the internet? Is it a clear improvement?

thanks, Jay
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In my opinion, most things do sound better local (L1, NAS) than streamed (eg Qobuz). Many are close enough I think it would be hard to tell the difference though.
 
chungjh said:
From people's feedback, do you think playing stored music (e.g. on L1) sounds better than streaming since it does not depend on the internet? Is it a clear improvement?
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Whenever people report streaming SQ degradation over local files, there are two paths that can be tried:
1. Fiber isolation (native to the X1)
2. LPS for the network modem, router, switches, etc.
 
wklie said:
Whenever people report streaming SQ degradation over local files, there are two paths that can be tried:
1. Fiber isolation (native to the X1)
2. LPS for the network modem, router, switches, etc.
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I tried fiber. I don't find that it is any better than ethernet. Also, like many people, streamed music sounds better late at night when the RF interference over the internet is lower. I would think local files wouldn't be as affected.
 
wklie said:
Whenever people report streaming SQ degradation over local files, there are two paths that can be tried:
1. Fiber isolation (native to the X1)
2. LPS for the network modem, router, switches, etc.
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Exactly right, Peter. My experience is 100% concordant with yours...

BTW, the P1 is here....

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And...I will say it was pretty cool to be able to connect it with not one, but TWO less digital cables...no need for an Ethernet nor a USB cable.

Went straight into the optical port via fiber with my SFP optical transceiver.

"Yeah, baby, yeah!" - Austin Powers, International Man of Mystery ;)
 
chungjh said:
I tried fiber. I don't find that it is any better than ethernet. Also, like many people, streamed music sounds better late at night when the RF interference over the internet is lower. I would think local files wouldn't be as affected.
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No RF interference when using optical fiber instead of...copper Ethernet.

In, other words, ∆ x E = ∂B/∂t....ain't happenin'!

Ain't physics...grand?

That guy James Clerk Maxwell had it...goin' on! 😜
 
Puma Cat said:
No RF interference when using optical fiber instead of...copper Ethernet.

In, other words, ∆ x E = ∂B/∂t....ain't happenin'!

Ain't physics...grand?

That guy James Clerk Maxwell had it...goin' on! 😜
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I agree about the fiber and RFI but how about all RFI that entered the system before that.
 
chungjh said:
Can you tell us your experience with Shunyata Venom 14 D? Shunyata has other digital PCs.
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The Venom V14D is an excellent power cable for use with products that reside entirely in the digital domain, providing significant noise reduction functionality for digital-only products, e.g. music servers, clocks, Ethernet switches, network bridges, network streamers, etc. You can observe first-hand, with data, the impact they have on reducing AC power-line noise....

Shunyata Research Venom 14 Digital power cord demonstration - YouTube

V14D Demo Part 2 - YouTube

The Venom V14D cable is the only Shunyata Research cable *currently in-production* that was specifically designed for components that reside entirely in the "digital domain". The foundation of this cable was based on a cable that was designed for Shunyata's sister company, Clear Image Scientific, which designs cables specifically to optimize digital imaging for medical imaging applications.

The other noise-reduction-based cables, e.g. the Venom NR v12, Venom NR v10, Delta NRv2, Alpha NRv2, Sigma NRv2, Omega QR, and Omega QR-s are noise-reduction cables designed for components that also function in the "analog" domain, e.g., DACs, CD players, phono stages, preamps, amps, etc. As such, the noise reduction filtering in these cables is somewhat different than the application-specific noise-filtering in the Venom V14D digital power cable, specifically because these cables (also) operate in the "analog domain". The other cable that was designed for use with DACs is the amazing Omega QR-s cable. But again, DACs reside, at their business end, in the....analog domain.

The XC series of cables are primarily designed as power cables for power distributors, specifically power distributors that provide noise-reduction functonality. Examples of these are the Omega XC, Sigma XC, Alpha XC, Delta XC, etc.

I have experience with all of them, so if you have specific questions about a particular PC, feel free to post them here. Cheers.
 
Puma Cat said:
The Venom V14D is an excellent power cable for use with products that reside entirely in the digital domain, providing significant noise reduction functionality for digital-only products, e.g. music servers, clocks, Ethernet switches, network bridges, network streamers, etc. You can observe first-hand, with data, the impact they have on reducing AC power-line noise....

Shunyata Research Venom 14 Digital power cord demonstration - YouTube

V14D Demo Part 2 - YouTube

The Venom V14D cable is the only Shunyata Research cable *currently in-production* that was specifically designed for components that reside entirely in the "digital domain". The foundation of this cable was based on a cable that was designed for Shunyata's sister company, Clear Image Scientific, which designs cables specifically to optimize digital imaging for medical imaging applications.

The other noise-reduction-based cables, e.g. the Venom NR v12, Venom NR v10, Delta NRv2, Alpha NRv2, Sigma NRv2, Omega QR, and Omega QR-s are noise-reduction cables designed for components that also function in the "analog" domain, e.g., DACs, CD players, phono stages, preamps, amps, etc. As such, the noise reduction filtering in these cables is somewhat different than the application-specific noise-filtering in the Venom V14D digital power cable, specifically because these cables (also) operate in the "analog domain". The other cable that was designed for use with DACs is the amazing Omega QR-s cable. But again, DACs reside, at their business end, in the....analog domain.

The XC series of cables are primarily designed as power cables for power distributors, specifically power distributors that provide noise-reduction functonality. Examples of these are the Omega XC, Sigma XC, Alpha XC, Delta XC, etc.

I have experience with all of them, so if you have specific questions about a particular PC, feel free to post them here. Cheers.
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I have Torus RM20 power conditioner which filters out noise >20K Hz. Would the Venom still beneficial over a standard PC?
 
Hi Peter,

My Lumin X1 is not responding to commands from my iPad. Is there a problem with the Lumin server? I have unplugged/plugged, rebooted my iPad, and reinstalled the Lumin app. Now the Lumin interface is blank. Help!

Jay
 
Please power cycle the whole network of devices starting from the router, include Lumin and iPad, and NAS, etc.

P.S. Your old posts indicated you may have an EtherREGEN. If it still does not work after power cycling it, please remove the EtherREGEN from the network temporarily and see if everything else works.
 
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