Lumin Amazon HiRes Audio Streaming

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Does anyone know when Lumin will be adding Amazon HiRes Audio Streaming?

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This is the major problem with Amazon HD, hardly anyone can play it directly from their device, a big error on Amazon's part I think. Yes I know Denon, Pioneer and others advertise it but if you read their info you'll find most only do it via Airplay. Bluesound can do it but it's seemingly so-so to use.

Yes it can Airplay/Cast but those that are serious about music WANT to play it properly surely?

Don't hold your breath for the release of their API and watch out for the leavers once their 90 day trial is up.

Amazon of course sell the Echo Link DAC/Streamer but it's £190
 
I just searched to understand what they are offering, and while price is something one should consider, the market is not us, and that’s ok as I said before I will stick with Qobuz and Tidal as they are segmented into our world!


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mikeyb said:
This is the major problem with Amazon HD, hardly anyone can play it directly from their device
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Huh? I'd guestimate 99.9% of subscribers can play it just fine.
I'm sure the boutique/3rd party market will adopt eventually.
 
AJ Soundfield said:
Huh? I'd guestimate 99.9% of subscribers can play it just fine.
I'm sure the boutique/3rd party market will adopt eventually.
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You've misinterpreted what I meant, of course people can play it but where are the dedicated devices to play it in full resolution and able to control it on their HiFi system? Such as we can with Tidal, Spotify, Qobuz etc.


Don't think many audiophiles use Denon or Pioneer or Yamaha etc.

Yeah I can listen on my iPad, my smartphone but very few devices will play it to my hifi system directly ie: not Airplay
 
mikeyb said:
where are the dedicated devices to play it in full resolution and able to control it on their HiFi system? Such as we can with Tidal, Spotify, Qobuz etc.

very few devices will play it to my hifi system directly ie: not Airplay
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Most folks own computers. With usb ports. Whether those are "dedicated" is irrelevant. With an internet connection, they will stream any of the services, including Amazon, just fine. No Denon, Pioneer or Yamaha required. Maybe an HP or Dell. They're seen at audio shows all the time, often laptops. Use an external usb DAC capable up whatever sample rate one imagines is required for "full resolution" above human 16/44.

Or wait for Lumin, etc. to adopt, hopefully eventually.
 
When Amazon makes their API available I'm sure Lumin and the other major streaming device companies will adopt it but at this point the ball is in Amazon's court. The CEO of Auralic announced last week that he had already reached out to them. Another option is for Amazon to make available to those companies a full service app like Spotify Connect.
 
AJ Soundfield said:
Most folks own computers. With usb ports. Whether those are "dedicated" is irrelevant. With an internet connection, they will stream any of the services, including Amazon, just fine. No Denon, Pioneer or Yamaha required. Maybe an HP or Dell. They're seen at audio shows all the time, often laptops. Use an external usb DAC capable up whatever sample rate one imagines is required for "full resolution" above human 16/44.

Or wait for Lumin, etc. to adopt, hopefully eventually.
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Dangling a laptop via USB off a two channel set-up is akin to hanging fuzzy dice from the mirror of a Porsche or Ferrari.
 
I agree. Any streaming that uses a generic computer is no better than using it to play ripped files. Basically, it is at the bottom of the audiophile pile.
 
still-one said:
Dangling a laptop via USB off a two channel set-up is akin to hanging fuzzy dice from the mirror of a Porsche or Ferrari.
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Yes, agree fashion is the number 1 audiophile priority.
A mini pc can be placed in the audiophile shrine. Just like a Lumin et al.
 
For all we know Amazon did this to go after those non audiophile types with their smart phones and car radios and home computers. There are more of those non audiophile types than audiophiles. I guess time will tell,.
 
BlueFox said:
I agree. Any streaming that uses a generic computer is no better than using it to play ripped files. Basically, it is at the bottom of the audiophile pile.
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Hey Bud, that’s a pretty decent entry-level stereo rig you’ve got there! 😁. Colour me green for envious
 
All of the Lumins, Aurenders, Nucleus's, SGC's, Antipodes, Esoterics, they are all fairly heavyweight computers tied to your DAC and floating in the breeze like one of those unrolling paper party streamers. Just like the fuzzy dice hanging from my Porsche mirror. Dare I mention Olive? Hope you sold yours in time.

Anyway, it is possible to create a very capable music server using a PC platform that is optimized for low emi/rfi and excellent audio. Most audiophiles don't have the background to do so, thus the proliferation of proprietary music server platforms. Getting digital correct is very hard, thus the array of power conditioning, grounding, and cable products that really do make a difference in digital front end sound quality, even using dedicated streamers. Boy this hair shirt fits great! :)
 
W9TR said:
All of the Lumins, Aurenders, Nucleus's, SGC's, Antipodes, Esoterics, they are all fairly heavyweight computers tied to your DAC
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Half of the mentioned products are full blown x86 computers, but not Lumin - Lumin is comparatively lightweight.
 
I think it’s good.

Hey Peter, what’s under that big heat sink? Inquiring minds want to know. It’s sure not an Atmega 169. :)
 
LUMIN being an actual consumer electronics (CE) product instead of a general purpose computer in a nicer looking enclosure is one thing I find very attractive, from a product perspective. I have done embedded software development and CE hardware production, and there are significant benefits associated with a product not being designed or operating like a general purpose computer.

One that is pretty easy for people to grasp is that there will be no problems if the device suddenly loses power. But there are other benefits in terms of how processes can be run and prioritized and how hardware can be interfaced with.

The downside is that it is not general purpose, and it can be harder to repurpose things or to add functionality that is significantly different than what was originally planned.
 
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