Los Angeles area wildfires

Regardless of the root cause of the fires or the leadership chaos in California and LA, a lot of people have lost everything and, even some, their lives. A very sad way to start 2025.

And, a big thank you to the responders that are tasked with an almost impossible job. They are doing the best they can given the limitations of funding and resources given to them.
 
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As a native Angelino, this is the worst local disaster I've witnessed since the '94 Northridge quake. It's a nightmare no one could have readily predicted. The Santa Ana's we saw earlier this week were the strongest I can remember, with gusts up to 80 mph on the coast and 100+ inland. When the SA's blow you can almost always count on a fire somewhere, it's usually in sparsely populated area but this is on another level.

I personally did not suffer a direct loss but several friends and acqaitances have. I've lived in some of the impacted areas and its very sad to see it change forever.
 
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I’m gratified to read that there are still members here willing to exhibit the notable human qualities of compassion and support for those in need. For those who would rather not, go fly a kite and see if that might put you back in touch…
 
rbbert said:
How is the leadership of that state accountable???
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Your question is probably why nobody started a thread about the CA fires. You can't talk about them without diving head first into politics.
 
mep said:
Your question is probably why nobody started a thread about the CA fires. You can't talk about them without diving head first into politics.
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Sad and perhaps true but I have not yet given up hope
 
It’s clearly tragic. Just because people don’t comment on it, doesn’t mean they don’t care.

That’s a pretty broad brush you are swiping.
 
mep said:
Your question is probably why nobody started a thread about the CA fires. You can't talk about them without diving head first into politics.
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There's too much finger pointing at the moment when people need to focus on saving life and limb. The winds are still blowing and supossed to pick up again this weekend, coupled with the very low humidity its like a tinderbox. Hindsight is always 20/20; Shoulda, coulda, woulda is all you hear in the news. Its def a wake up call to our leadership in CA, we're not going to hear the last of this, if ever.
 
crwilli said:
It’s clearly tragic. Just because people don’t comment on it, doesn’t mean they don’t care.

That’s a pretty broad brush you are swiping.
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Not what I meant to imply, and I should probably be more thick-skinned when it comes to the usual suspects (who of course were among the earliest to post). Still, why immediately go to the "blame game" during an ongoing tragedy of this magnitude?
 
rbbert said:
Not what I meant to imply, and I should probably be more thick-skinned when it comes to the usual suspects (who of course were among the earliest to post). Still, why immediately go to the "blame game" during an ongoing tragedy of this magnitude?
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its extremely sad what's happening out in cali at the moment, but if they do not make those responsible it will Continue to happen, call it blame game all you want but its the truth and could have been prevented
 
Porsche said:
its extremely sad what's happening out in cali at the moment, but if they do not make those responsible it will Continue to happen, call it blame game all you want but its the truth and could have been prevented
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Very much your opinion and not supported by available data (ameliorated, probably; prevented, almost certainly not); don't turn this thread into a debate, please.
 
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rbbert said:
Very much your opinion and not supported by available data (ameliorated, probably; prevented, almost certainly not); don't turn this thread into a debate, please.
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OK, let's go with ameliorated. That would have been 100% better than the current conditions or is that debatable too?
 
I worded that wrong, prevented, no, if someone is intent on catching things on fire they will, or if it was Mother Nature as well. however, it would have been much more contained and controllable if handled properly.
 
rbbert said:
Very much your opinion and not supported by available data (ameliorated, probably; prevented, almost certainly not); don't turn this thread into a debate, please.
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I think it's a fair assumption that the 'magnitude' of the disaster could certainly been minimized.
 
Mikado463 said:
I think it's a fair assumption that the 'magnitude' of the disaster could certainly been minimized.
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True for nearly all of the past few years' natural disasters. I have little doubt that in the near future Los Angeles and the surrounding communities will address most of the snafus associated with this one, but discussing it now benefits no one (and exactly where the money will come from to try to fix some of those problems is unclear, to say the least)
 
One can only hope for the best for all those people who lost their homes. I hope they get the necessary care they need and that the insurance companies can efficiently pay for most of the damage claims. One interesting thing I read in this morning's Wall Street Journal was the use of a fire retardant spray that a homeowner used before the fire hit and it saved their home. This seems to me to be something that should be more widespread and available for those who need it. Perhaps a national push to advertise the use?
 
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