Job 250 monos amps: absolutely wonderful ...

When I had my JOB I was using a McIntosh, and then the STP-SE. The Rothwell's helped. But again, too early in my re-evolution...

It sounds like your F7 has an issue... which Nelson said he has never had.... 100% reliable. My speakers are extremely hard to drive compared to yours. My F6 gives me great sound and plenty of volume. My ARC gets a bit louder. Also, the First Watts are very low gain, so you have to push the volume control a bit more than other amplifiers...
 
From my listening experience F6 is better than F7. I found the F7 somewhat lifeless compared to F6
 
lordcloud said:
My speakers are 91 db efficient, 6 ohm, and use a simple series crossover...yet my F7 has a difficult time with them. I switched to my old Monarchy Audio SM70's and they sound MUCH better on them. Particularly more detailed and more lifelike.

This makes me wonder if my F7 needs some attending to.

As far as the Job goes, I don't really need the power they have, but I've read that the clarity and speed are outstanding. I use a TVC passive preamp, so it would seem that they'd be ok, as far as volume control.
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Great amp & very underrated...not surprised it beats the F7...get it checked if you like...but bet I am right...
 
I have never listened to the F7, but I know from speaking with Nelson that he only adds a new model when he feels the design is worthy of the First Watt name. With that said my F6 is a great sounding amplifier but I am also intrigued with the JOB mono blocks moving forward.

Currently I do not need the extra power, but down the rad if I want to move into a different speaker I might.
 
My Job 250 monos are great. Destination amps. I've been playing them on my Strads and while I love and could easily live with the Job INTegrated, the 250 monos are just a heck of a lot better in all respects compared to a lot of other amps that I've heard. They have both XLR and RCA inputs and so far sound great with my BHK preamp, they are incredible with my KXR Twenty preamp. I know that is an unusual pairing but any decent preamp will be great. Air, 3D, articulate bass, sweet vocals, big soundstage and dead quiet makes these amps almost perfect. I love these and they are not going anywhere.



Nikhil said:
Joe,

A friend of mine is interested in the Job 250 Monos.
Look forward to hearing more from you on them.

Regards
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Hi Joe,

Seems that you have recently bought a pre2 as well. How is the performance of pre2 + 250 combo? I wonder if the JOB combo makes the sound more coherent than using other preamp in the chain.
 
Hi Rubato,

Welcome to the forum. Thank you for joining.

I am a big Job Electronics fan from the beginning. Like I've said before, the 250 monos are absolutely amazing. The Job Pre2 is a solid performer and depending on your taste or preference, could be great. I prefer a preamp (typically tube but not absolutely necessary) that adds a little warmth and bloom. The Job 250 monos are fast and clean, but in a really good way. Adding a little warmth, sweetness or bloom just makes perfection to me at an amazing price. I believe that if you have overly warm speakers, the Pre2 and any Job amp will be great. If your speakers are a little tougher to drive or you just want a little better performance, the Job 250 monos are just right. Assembling a system is like a really good recipe, add seasoning to taste - to make it your own. If your sources are warmer or sweeter than the Job Pre2 will be great. My preference is for a slightly better sounding preamp.
 
Thanks Joe! That's informative and helpful.
One more question, I wonder if 250 monos are better in all aspects than 225? I have a pair of Reference 3A de capo, very easygoing (92db, 8ohm). I am currently using a 30W DIY amp but considering an upgrade. I understand 225 is good enough for the purpose, but if the monos do not overdrive sensitive speakers in general, it may be a good investment so that I have more options when upgrading the speakers later.
 
Hi,

If you don't mind spending twice as much for the Job 250 monos, they are an absolute upgrade able to drive a much wider variety of speakers and do it much better like I describe in my previous post. The monos are way more versatile and the sound quality is better in every respect. I feel that even the amp portion of the Job INTegrated, sounds better than the 225 and the 250 monos better everything below them.
 
The Nords probably have more drive and might be a little bit "thicker" in tone, but I honestly prefer the Job 250 monos overall. The Job monos are more to my "taste".

Devg said:
Joe, are the Nords at par with Job 250 monos or they are not even comparable ?
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Hi Joe, it's always very interesting to follow your latest journey in the hifi world... :)

joeinid said:
The Nords probably have more drive and might be a little bit "thicker" in tone, but I honestly prefer the Job 250 monos overall. The Job monos are more to my "taste".
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I'm a very happy Nord owner myself, although constantly thinking about changing and upgrading things the Jobs indeed do look interesting. If I'm not mistaken you also used to have the Ayre VX-5 Twenty? If you're leaving the money question out of consideration (local taxes, another power cable etc would in the end make it about the same for me), what would your taste in preference be between the Jobs and the Ayre? :)
 
If Joe ever hangs up his Audiophile hat, he will need to lease a disused Walmart store just to sell off his inventory! :roflmao:
 
Thanks. I am a little bit addicted to gear.

Hmmmm, great question. I did have the KX5-20 and VX5-20 combo and with other gear. I do miss them very much and am actually thinking about the KX5-20 again for another system. I would absolutely take the VX5-20 again in a heartbeat over a lot of gear. The new Twenty series Ayre gear just has it in spades for me. So if I understand your question, it's Ayre, then Job monos, then Nord - as long as your speakers are a fitting match for each in turn. Obviously, speaker choice is paramount when choosing amps, IMO.


VoicesInMyHead said:
Hi Joe, it's always very interesting to follow your latest journey in the hifi world... :)

I'm a very happy Nord owner myself, although constantly thinking about changing and upgrading things the Jobs indeed do look interesting. If I'm not mistaken you also used to have the Ayre VX-5 Twenty? If you're leaving the money question out of consideration (local taxes, another power cable etc would in the end make it about the same for me), what would your taste in preference be between the Jobs and the Ayre? :)
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Ha! Now that's a great idea.

Melbguy1 said:
If Joe ever hangs up his Audiophile hat, he will need to lease a disused Walmart store just to sell off his inventory! :roflmao:
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joeinid said:
After thinking about these amps for the better part of a year and a half, I could not resist any longer.

Not even broken in, they are amazing. These 250 monos are absolutely great. Solid build quality, surprisingly heavy with that distinctive sweet and fast Goldmund sound. They have better bass and more air, simply wonderful and a true high end bargain in the audio world.
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Yup. 100% agree.

Had them on loaner with the 225 last year for a month. No brainer for all but the most demanding loads.
 
joeinid said:
Hmmmm, great question. I did have the KX5-20 and VX5-20 combo and with other gear. I do miss them very much and am actually thinking about the KX5-20 again for another system. I would absolutely take the VX5-20 again in a heartbeat over a lot of gear. The new Twenty series Ayre gear just has it in spades for me. So if I understand your question, it's Ayre, then Job monos, then Nord - as long as your speakers are a fitting match for each in turn. Obviously, speaker choice is paramount when choosing amps, IMO.
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Thanks, that's very helpful. I borrowed an AX5-20 last year and really wanted to like it, but while I just couldn't accept some of Ayres design decisions, the sound was unquestionable and truly awesome. The VX5-20 would be easier for me to "live with" though and I've been giving it some thoughts lately. That is if I can resist going down the tempting Jobs mono path though... and the Jobs would even look great next to my lovely Lampi DAC as they kind of share the same, hmm... "esthetics"... :)
 
The Job 250 monos are awesome and not a step down from the VX5-20. They have a lot in common. I wish I had them side by side to compare but my 250 monos are not going anywhere. I guess that should say what I value more.

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joeinid said:
The Job 250 monos are awesome and not a step down from the VX5-20. They have a lot in common. I wish I had them side by side to compare but my 250 monos are not going anywhere. I guess that should say what I value more.
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I hope they're not having summer vacation yet in the Switzerland factory.... :)
 
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