highEndguy
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Best of luck with your cable company.
I'm not going to continue on this thread, is not going anywhere
I'm not going to continue on this thread, is not going anywhere
I've got the cable technology to make a run at doing something special , strategic partner wanted
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Bobvin
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10-4 on that Nelson. Though there is some nagging desire to see big nasty crashes on the road even though we all want not to look.
There are several crowd funding sites available these days Bandor, you should explore that route to generating capitol if funding is what you are after. Of course, you would have to provide info about your product and your business plan. Not endless words either, real evidence you have worked this through. Crowd funding seems to be at least one method several folks have used to get started.
You mention you have made gen 1 and gen 2 runs of this product, where are those samples at? Surely you have some laying about? I have a small business with boxes and boxes of prototypes and research samples gathering dust, you can't be the first inventor in history not to have samples of prior efforts available. If you sold off everything then how in the world do you imagine to raise capitol. You have no business being in business if you've done that.
There are several crowd funding sites available these days Bandor, you should explore that route to generating capitol if funding is what you are after. Of course, you would have to provide info about your product and your business plan. Not endless words either, real evidence you have worked this through. Crowd funding seems to be at least one method several folks have used to get started.
You mention you have made gen 1 and gen 2 runs of this product, where are those samples at? Surely you have some laying about? I have a small business with boxes and boxes of prototypes and research samples gathering dust, you can't be the first inventor in history not to have samples of prior efforts available. If you sold off everything then how in the world do you imagine to raise capitol. You have no business being in business if you've done that.
Keith - whatever you're able to provide, I will work with.
PM sent.
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TY Keith for providing the sample review. Mike TY for your generosity to make an unbiased review. I am looking forward to this thread.
audio.bill
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Bandor - I'm pleased to see that you have agreed to supply some cables for review, thank you for stepping up. I am looking forward to reading the results from Mike's testing. Apparently this is something that could only be accomplished here on AudioShark!
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Paul
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Wow. I found this thread get more interesting. Lol
audio.bill
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Did you look under the Technical section? I found quite a bit of detail regarding the implementation of their proprietary ΞTRON technology. There is additional information in some of the other Technical sections with more supposed to be coming soon. I find their approach and willingness to share details of their designs refreshing and rather rare among the majority of cable companies.
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Hello Bandor,
Joe Harley from AudioQuest here. Neither Bill Low or myself have any idea what you are referring to in the above story. When and where did this meeting supposedly take place?
Joe
Joe Harley from AudioQuest here. Neither Bill Low or myself have any idea what you are referring to in the above story. When and where did this meeting supposedly take place?
Joe
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Thanks Joe, nice to be here. Someone clued me that Bills name was being used as a supposed endorsee of these cables so I wanted to let people know that Bandor's story (is that his real name?) did not ring a bell with either of us. I also wanted to make it known that if someone really has a better technology that is proven, better and repeatable, we would have no problem licensing and incorporating it. Over the 32 year existence of AQ, we've done this several times from conductors (Linear Crystal & PC-OCC) to connectors.
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From the link provided by bandor in post #3, his real name is mentioned as being Keith Robberding (Keithhenry99).
Like most members here I've been following Keith's posting here and over there. Slowly I am getting a picture, and I am finally happy to see that he's going to send some of his speaker wires and interconnects to Mike. Then that picture should get clearer.
It seems to me that Keith needs some assistance in the further development (termination & distribution) of his cables.
* Dragons Den is a Canadian TV show; and this thread reminds me of that show. ...Where new entrepreneurs come and show their products but need financial assistance to develop, distribute, market their product.
Am I half right, Keith?
Like most members here I've been following Keith's posting here and over there. Slowly I am getting a picture, and I am finally happy to see that he's going to send some of his speaker wires and interconnects to Mike. Then that picture should get clearer.
It seems to me that Keith needs some assistance in the further development (termination & distribution) of his cables.
* Dragons Den is a Canadian TV show; and this thread reminds me of that show. ...Where new entrepreneurs come and show their products but need financial assistance to develop, distribute, market their product.
Am I half right, Keith?
bandor
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20 years ago down in the below los angles previous headquarters when He paid for my car service back to the john wayne airport. The next week he made me an offer ( kind of a low ball at the time, but he liked what he heard. I believe it was in San Clemente but at least somewehre below LA
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20 years ago? Well, that would explain the fuzziness. We moved from our San Clemente location in 1997. I do recall your making another visit to AudioQuest in Irvine in 2007. I auditioned your cables along with you and a friend of yours. An e-mail from that time (now that I have your name to search) revealed that we took a pass on any involvement after auditioning those cables.
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What you told me was that you liked your cable better because there was more body in the midrange, and being familiar with
the song in question I asked if what you liked was even "ON" the recording and I added that indeed, you liked the distortion that your cable was adding to the sound, YES DISTORTION, YOU LIKED THE BLOOM THAT YOUR SLOW HORRIBLE SOUNDING CABLE WAS ADDING.to the playback Do you deny that bill Low came to my house and offered me $30,000 to buy the cable in question. You dear sir are not able to differentiate between distortion and recorded detail. That is the only observation I ever made to design my cable. I never did a cable build (20 in all) that the newest cable did not sound beter than the previous generation. Maybe an Audio Shark member who loves his Audioquest cablel wouled like to invite me over to his house to do a comparison test, bring it on. Bill Low did not have the decency to meet me in person ON that visit as I had brought my business attorney down with me, nor did you actually volunteer any music of note to listen to and I remember commenting that It was odd that I should have to supply the critical music that that would act as test material. I believe it was his version of throwing me under the bus. It was not a real auditioning room, it was a room designed to try and make my cable sound like crap. Yea I was there in 2007 and what I have now is so much better than the crap you guys are making down there. Where is your well written white paper that discusses the gauges and strategies you are using today, and If this, my friend were a gun fight you should consider yourself called out to the coral to have settled in the old fashioned way. I imagine if bill is still using 38 gauge cable in his designs and if not, he is probably in violation of my cable patent .Can Bill Low deny that he had offered to buy my cable after the first trip to San Clemente? My original enemy turned friend (mark S Brasfield ) is the man in question. He also started msb technology and the first time he heard my cable at my house, He looked perplexed and said there is no way in the world that your meager system could possibly sound as good as it does. Most people thought the name msb stood for "Most" significant bit '" but indeed those were simply Marks initials. I' remembers me requesting to be excused from our contract so I could at least have a chance at negotiating for myself with Bill Low.
Do you also deny that Bill was so intrigued that he came to my house when I was living on Gilman Drive in Daly City, in california, To audition my cable before I was personally invited down to San Clemente where the quote I mentioned was uttered.
He asked me "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE HERE" BECAUSE IT SOUNDED SO AMAZING. He listened for all of 10 seconds s before he gave in. I believe his sole intent to invite me back was to embarrass me in front of my attorney by no providing a serious listening venue, well, it just showed me how much class you have.
Thats the way I remember it went down, and he even had the nerve to write to my then, distributor and tell him a lie about what had happened.
Remember joe, you started this. Bill Low had to have my cable because he felt that it was clearly better than his and If we have a shoot out, he is not allowed to bring his clearly talented copy talent to make up more bs for the public to hear. I do remember when I left San Clement Bill paid the $90 for my ride back to John Wayne Airport. If I've missed something joe, just make up a rebuttal for that and tell us a story. I'm getting sick of these prima donna audio designers trying to put me down, remember, all that you know about system playback is in your living room.
Anyone live in the bay are like to have a listen?
It appears I was invited down to southern cal so I could be ambushed and my business attorney was perplexed and not amused. What they did was unprofessional and childlike. Shame, Shame and in the end I am not the one that will look like a buffoon.
the song in question I asked if what you liked was even "ON" the recording and I added that indeed, you liked the distortion that your cable was adding to the sound, YES DISTORTION, YOU LIKED THE BLOOM THAT YOUR SLOW HORRIBLE SOUNDING CABLE WAS ADDING.to the playback Do you deny that bill Low came to my house and offered me $30,000 to buy the cable in question. You dear sir are not able to differentiate between distortion and recorded detail. That is the only observation I ever made to design my cable. I never did a cable build (20 in all) that the newest cable did not sound beter than the previous generation. Maybe an Audio Shark member who loves his Audioquest cablel wouled like to invite me over to his house to do a comparison test, bring it on. Bill Low did not have the decency to meet me in person ON that visit as I had brought my business attorney down with me, nor did you actually volunteer any music of note to listen to and I remember commenting that It was odd that I should have to supply the critical music that that would act as test material. I believe it was his version of throwing me under the bus. It was not a real auditioning room, it was a room designed to try and make my cable sound like crap. Yea I was there in 2007 and what I have now is so much better than the crap you guys are making down there. Where is your well written white paper that discusses the gauges and strategies you are using today, and If this, my friend were a gun fight you should consider yourself called out to the coral to have settled in the old fashioned way. I imagine if bill is still using 38 gauge cable in his designs and if not, he is probably in violation of my cable patent .Can Bill Low deny that he had offered to buy my cable after the first trip to San Clemente? My original enemy turned friend (mark S Brasfield ) is the man in question. He also started msb technology and the first time he heard my cable at my house, He looked perplexed and said there is no way in the world that your meager system could possibly sound as good as it does. Most people thought the name msb stood for "Most" significant bit '" but indeed those were simply Marks initials. I' remembers me requesting to be excused from our contract so I could at least have a chance at negotiating for myself with Bill Low.
Do you also deny that Bill was so intrigued that he came to my house when I was living on Gilman Drive in Daly City, in california, To audition my cable before I was personally invited down to San Clemente where the quote I mentioned was uttered.
He asked me "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE HERE" BECAUSE IT SOUNDED SO AMAZING. He listened for all of 10 seconds s before he gave in. I believe his sole intent to invite me back was to embarrass me in front of my attorney by no providing a serious listening venue, well, it just showed me how much class you have.
Thats the way I remember it went down, and he even had the nerve to write to my then, distributor and tell him a lie about what had happened.
Remember joe, you started this. Bill Low had to have my cable because he felt that it was clearly better than his and If we have a shoot out, he is not allowed to bring his clearly talented copy talent to make up more bs for the public to hear. I do remember when I left San Clement Bill paid the $90 for my ride back to John Wayne Airport. If I've missed something joe, just make up a rebuttal for that and tell us a story. I'm getting sick of these prima donna audio designers trying to put me down, remember, all that you know about system playback is in your living room.
Anyone live in the bay are like to have a listen?
It appears I was invited down to southern cal so I could be ambushed and my business attorney was perplexed and not amused. What they did was unprofessional and childlike. Shame, Shame and in the end I am not the one that will look like a buffoon.
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