Ok, I'm ready! Really want to hear your cables.
I've got the cable technology to make a run at doing something special , strategic partner wanted
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We have listened politely and patiently; it is time to deliver the goods my friend.
Since you seem to have much to say; perhaps you could point us to a website so that we can read about your cable technology, products and distribution?
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; and you will go far"
Theodore Roosevelt
Caelin Gabriel
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Since you seem to have much to say; perhaps you could point us to a website so that we can read about your cable technology, products and distribution?
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; and you will go far"
Theodore Roosevelt
Caelin Gabriel
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Shunyata Research
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Caelin-You actually went far beyond that previously. You offered to license his technology if he would send you a sample and if it was as good as he is telling everyone. Your offer was flipped over to "someone demanded samples" on this forum.
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Patiently sitting on the fence!
"bandor", will you supply a loom that we may try as I have a Wire World Platinum loom as well as a Shunyata Anaconda loom to compare it too?
I am not saying you are obliged to do this bandor but the comparison would be very beneficial & far reaching if it was evident that they are truly an exceptional cable that are liked by the masses
"bandor", will you supply a loom that we may try as I have a Wire World Platinum loom as well as a Shunyata Anaconda loom to compare it too?
I am not saying you are obliged to do this bandor but the comparison would be very beneficial & far reaching if it was evident that they are truly an exceptional cable that are liked by the masses
maty
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Perhaps the secret of many network cables, interconnection and "audiophile" fuses that act as a low pass filter for RFI/EMI, I say.
-> Wikipedia Electromagnetic interference
-> Wikipedia Electromagnetic interference
maty
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To my speakers (KEF Q100) I use Kimber Kable 8PR. Why?
-> Audioholics.com Kimber Kable 4PR & 8PR Measurements and Analysis
-> Audioholics.com Kimber Kable 4PR & 8PR Measurements and Analysis
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From what I gather the whole gist of this thread is nothing but this, so far...
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i am following this thread with great interest. I hope a review is conducted in behalf of AS.
NorthStar
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Them cables Keith, are they Ice Age treated (cryogenically frozen)?
GaryProtein
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This photo just looks like a spool of anybody's cable.
Show us a real close-up of the hairlike wires comprising the cable.
Another photo showing a ruler in the photo showing the full sized cable bonded to it's connectors would be nice.
So far you're just jerking us off.
An entity can have a patent on anything based on its claims, but you don't need an actual working product (except for a perpetual motion machine I am told). Do you have one?
Show us something of substance demonstrating your product.
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Caelin's post says it all in his usual courteous manner. I would respectfully suggest that you either submit your cable to some of the experts here for review, or else stop your endless flow of blathering about your "product".
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I know this has history on the net, but not here. He has had many offers, but not here. Now that the same has eventually been offered here, at least let him respond. If he has the backing to his claims, we'll know for sure from the next response. It'll either be pro, or defensive, either way the outcome will be glaringly obvious without the need to kick the shite out of him. bandor, you sir have the floor. I hope you make good!
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As I mentioned close to 20,000 ft was sold with no mention to me what was being charged, nothing for me to go on. I am in the process of having it remade again, interconnect and speaker cable. The speaker cable can be double and tripled to build a power cable. If a few select people would like to hear it in the best case scenario with their best cd's like I do, I would welcome them to come over to hear what it sounds like in sequence like mine with a hand built dac using my cable and speaker wire going to the driver. The job 225 amp is the first product in 25 years in my system to not have my cable internally wired. At this point I am preparing to have it remade for the 3rd generation and then to some specific dealers who can see that it get into reviewers hands. I have no interest in satisfying the demands of individuals to put up or shut up like the people in the last 20 years for me to allow my cable to china and elsewhere.
I respectfully add that I have finally realized that If I want this to be taken seriously, I will have to do it myself. First thing is to build another generation. First Generation was done by New England electric company. When I went back for a rebuild, they doubled the price and so I found that I had to have it made in Switzerland by Elektrisola, my favorite people, and they have treated me the best thus far, and then to have it made by some companies such as Victor Wire and cable in southern California to do the extrusions to have the wire protected by encasement. The reason that I said I was interested in a strategic partner was I could use technical assistance to do the best job in the build and distribution of this product. In a 3 week period of time I learned how to source, build and the wire because I had to have some control of cost. I realize it is now time to take it to the next level. My original dealer did what, I'm not sure with the cable, he was furious when one of his dealers called him to tell him that I had called him to inquire whether they had been given an opportunity to use my cable. I just found out last week that they had paid $700 a meter, wholesale cost for my interconnect. I wanted to not interfere with the dealer by overstepping my position as a supplier but that has now ended and I am free to do whatever I want. It would be nice if the people here would be supportive in helping me to do what will bring it to market.
Thus far, I wouldn't characterize comments here as helpful. I refuse to be bullied by people who know not what I have actually accomplished, derisive challenging comments are not what I need. I am a novice level guy that was able to see the trees through the forest and deserve maybe a pat on the back. I am open to offers of strategic partnership which could include actual partnership and if
I have broken a forum policy by offering that up, consider it taken back.
I can say that no matter what I have told people about what they can expect to here when they come over, I can say ,that admittedly, they were not prepared for the speed and resolution that they encountered and it actually, from my observation, took them sometime to understand what they were hearing after many distortions were eliminated. Some said that the body was gone, and I asked, was that actually on the recording or just another distortion that they believed was real. People basically said that when monitored direct from the processor to state of the art headphones that I was correct. My listening quest only considered what I could absolutely hear as recorded detail. Detail doesn't lie and it has nothing to do with midrange bloom, and presence etc, detail is ultimately the sound of an acoustic instrument playing a note in space, first the attack of the note, the harmonics in space and finally the decay of the notes around the performer. It can be the sound of the clarinet player depressing keys and the sound of fabric moving the the arms of a violinist, It can the the absolute sense that there is nothing between the musician and the microphone.
If a few people from audio shark would like to bring some of their best known and beloved discs would like to hear it first hand, I welcome you. I am sorry that I have not felt the need to go to computer stored renditions, I thought seriously about it but I feel a bit old to start down that path. I have been lazy because I have had the advantage of absolute peace of mind in what I hear. I know that some of you will laugh at my using such a primitive playback system, but when you hear it, you might change your mind. I
need a strategic partner in the form of whatever help they can offer. As of now I can afford to have the cable rebuilt and there you have it, I am not the enemy or an egotist, I love the music and the way beautiful music inspires us all.
I posted in good faith and did not expect the wrath and challenging comments made by some. I need help to move this forward. I thought it was pretty good for me to figure out how to actually get this cable built in 3 weeks. It did not take 3 weeks to see the product but I've got people in place to do that. I did find an old time vinyl specialist who told me that he had the contacts to bring it to review, imagine that. People will be amused to to listen to music that goes through wire they can't see,
I respectfully add that I have finally realized that If I want this to be taken seriously, I will have to do it myself. First thing is to build another generation. First Generation was done by New England electric company. When I went back for a rebuild, they doubled the price and so I found that I had to have it made in Switzerland by Elektrisola, my favorite people, and they have treated me the best thus far, and then to have it made by some companies such as Victor Wire and cable in southern California to do the extrusions to have the wire protected by encasement. The reason that I said I was interested in a strategic partner was I could use technical assistance to do the best job in the build and distribution of this product. In a 3 week period of time I learned how to source, build and the wire because I had to have some control of cost. I realize it is now time to take it to the next level. My original dealer did what, I'm not sure with the cable, he was furious when one of his dealers called him to tell him that I had called him to inquire whether they had been given an opportunity to use my cable. I just found out last week that they had paid $700 a meter, wholesale cost for my interconnect. I wanted to not interfere with the dealer by overstepping my position as a supplier but that has now ended and I am free to do whatever I want. It would be nice if the people here would be supportive in helping me to do what will bring it to market.
Thus far, I wouldn't characterize comments here as helpful. I refuse to be bullied by people who know not what I have actually accomplished, derisive challenging comments are not what I need. I am a novice level guy that was able to see the trees through the forest and deserve maybe a pat on the back. I am open to offers of strategic partnership which could include actual partnership and if
I have broken a forum policy by offering that up, consider it taken back.
I can say that no matter what I have told people about what they can expect to here when they come over, I can say ,that admittedly, they were not prepared for the speed and resolution that they encountered and it actually, from my observation, took them sometime to understand what they were hearing after many distortions were eliminated. Some said that the body was gone, and I asked, was that actually on the recording or just another distortion that they believed was real. People basically said that when monitored direct from the processor to state of the art headphones that I was correct. My listening quest only considered what I could absolutely hear as recorded detail. Detail doesn't lie and it has nothing to do with midrange bloom, and presence etc, detail is ultimately the sound of an acoustic instrument playing a note in space, first the attack of the note, the harmonics in space and finally the decay of the notes around the performer. It can be the sound of the clarinet player depressing keys and the sound of fabric moving the the arms of a violinist, It can the the absolute sense that there is nothing between the musician and the microphone.
If a few people from audio shark would like to bring some of their best known and beloved discs would like to hear it first hand, I welcome you. I am sorry that I have not felt the need to go to computer stored renditions, I thought seriously about it but I feel a bit old to start down that path. I have been lazy because I have had the advantage of absolute peace of mind in what I hear. I know that some of you will laugh at my using such a primitive playback system, but when you hear it, you might change your mind. I
need a strategic partner in the form of whatever help they can offer. As of now I can afford to have the cable rebuilt and there you have it, I am not the enemy or an egotist, I love the music and the way beautiful music inspires us all.
I posted in good faith and did not expect the wrath and challenging comments made by some. I need help to move this forward. I thought it was pretty good for me to figure out how to actually get this cable built in 3 weeks. It did not take 3 weeks to see the product but I've got people in place to do that. I did find an old time vinyl specialist who told me that he had the contacts to bring it to review, imagine that. People will be amused to to listen to music that goes through wire they can't see,
So that's a no? This sounds an awful lot like trolling and frankly, I'm getting tired of it.
bandor
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Mike
I get requests for samples, I just said I need help, what ever that means, trolling is an ugly word, I am
not used to participating in forums and I said in advance If am doing something wrong, I rescind or take back whatever in advance . I am not that far from bringing my wire to market and to a place that it can be judged by everyone. You must admit that I am not being treated with much kindness, mostly demands and confrontational stuff. If this is going to be another what's best forum repeat where people most laughed at my patent without understanding what I had even claimed, then maybe I shouldn't be here in the first place. I wanted to share that I had discovered something that I felt would benefit all.
I get requests for samples, I just said I need help, what ever that means, trolling is an ugly word, I am
not used to participating in forums and I said in advance If am doing something wrong, I rescind or take back whatever in advance . I am not that far from bringing my wire to market and to a place that it can be judged by everyone. You must admit that I am not being treated with much kindness, mostly demands and confrontational stuff. If this is going to be another what's best forum repeat where people most laughed at my patent without understanding what I had even claimed, then maybe I shouldn't be here in the first place. I wanted to share that I had discovered something that I felt would benefit all.
How can this benefit all, when we don't even know what it is? Look, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and a clean slate. Send me a sample. Let me try out your speaker cables or IC's or whatever for two weeks and I will send them back. They don't need to be terminated. Bare wire to bare wire is fine. I can work with as little as four feet per speaker. I will give a fair and honest review. If you are not far from bringing this to market, then surely you have some samples. No?
dlb2
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So let me get this straight. You come in here like a bull in a china shop, saying that you have a revolutionary way to produce audio cables, slam other manufacturers as "creative writers" with nothing backing up their claims, share nothing with us but a couple photos and a lot of words, and when some members here have questions and ask for product to demo you feel like you're being bullied and harassed?
Finally with your last post we are told that all you're really looking for are investors to help bring your product to market. Personally I think you've gone about it the wrong way.
Finally with your last post we are told that all you're really looking for are investors to help bring your product to market. Personally I think you've gone about it the wrong way.
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