I was @ a high-end video store earlier today ...

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... And I was checking the top-of-the-line Samsung (F9000 Series) 65" 3D LCD LED (Edge Lit) ULTRA HDTV (true 4K). WoW!!!
She's a real beauty, in & out! The 4K content was simply mind-blowing! ...So detailed that it was truly scary; beautiful woman face with skin to die for, hair you can touch, lips you can feel on yours! I'm not kidding, the picture was something to behold.

This Ultra HD TV (UHD TV) is the one I want! But she's too small at only 65". I want a bigger one; at least 80" (I think they have an 85" in that Series too).
{The 65" was $4,500 Cdn dollars.}

- And, I also looked at the Shark Quattron Plus (Q+) 3D HDTV+, the 80" model (five grands; Cdn), with all the pixels split in half to make them smaller, more of them (twice as much than a regular HD TV), and to show more details with 4K content. ...WoW, that one too made a big (larger) impact; 15" more accounts to a lot!

=> Sharp Quattron Plus TVs: Are They HD, Ultra HD, or Something Else Entirely?
 
Very cool Bob. I definitely want to see this 4K technology in action.


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Mike, it is truly awesome! ...Soon that we have more content (4K), I'll be totally content to dispose of some income (money).
...Even if I don't have any. :D

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Tomorrow I'm going to another video store, an ultra-high-end one this time; to check a Samsung S9V Series (UHD 4K) in the 85 and 110" size. ...$55,000 Cdn (85" size) and about $90,000 Cdn (110" size). * The 85" model one is only roughly $40,000 USD.
...Not to buy one, but just to check what money can buy at its best right now.

* When you are contemplating a flat panel display (4K and active 3D) in the 110" size (Diag), forget it now about that front projector for a bigger picture.
...Unless, you want something cheap in that same size screen. ...Because those (front projectors) you can get for only five grands, or so. ...But I'm not sure that they are 4K though. I don't think so; 2K (HD) only. ...But 3D.
{Even a good 4K front projector is only twenty-five grands, but you need a bat cave; not with a flat panel from above.}
 
Yes Matt but I wasn't interested so I spent less than one minute looking at it; the curve.

By the way, that curve (angle) is based on the same curve from those large screens in some of those large movie theaters.
Did you know that?
 
NorthStar said:
Yes Matt but I wasn't interested so I spent less than one minute looking at it; the curve.

By the way, that curve (angle) is based on the same curve from those large screens in some of those large movie theaters.
Did you know that?
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I figured they were basing the design off of something like that. It would be interesting to see how a salesperson would try and sell you one of those curved screens vs flat. I have yet to see a curved model in person or a 4k set. I'll put it on my list for the next time I visit the city.
 
NorthStar said:
... And I was checking the top-of-the-line Samsung (F9000 Series) 65" 3D LCD LED (Edge Lit) ULTRA HDTV (true 4K). WoW!!!
She's a real beauty, in & out! The 4K content was simply mind-blowing! ...So detailed that it was truly scary; beautiful woman face with skin to die for, hair you can touch, lips you can feel on yours! I'm not kidding, the picture was something to behold.

This Ultra HD TV (UHD TV) is the one I want! But she's too small at only 65". I want a bigger one; at least 80" (I think they have an 85" in that Series too).
{The 65" was $4,500 Cdn dollars.}

- And, I also looked at the Shark Quattron Plus 3D HDTV+, the 80" model (five grands; Cdn), with all the pixels split in half to make them smaller, more of them (twice as much than a regular HD TV), and to show more details with 4K content. ...WoW, that one too made a big (larger) impact; 15" more accounts to a lot!

=> Sharp Quattron Plus TVs: Are They HD, Ultra HD, or Something Else Entirely?
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But, there is no 4K content yet I thought? I've read in several places including the big studio that is re-doing some stuff into 4K that it is still at least 3 years out from being released. I know someone who bought some shares in it.
 
Matt715 said:
I figured they were basing the design off of something like that. It would be interesting to see how a salesperson would try and sell you one of those curved screens vs flat. I have yet to see a curved model in person or a 4k set. I'll put it on my list for the next time I visit the city.
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I don't know, Leo Laport bought a huge Samsung curve when they first came to market recently and loves it, so who knows? I've seen his, not in person of course, but that zany Leo did a video thing where he had Scott Wilkerson and a professional calibrator come to his house to dial it in and such and of course they were playing with it after.
 
I haven't checked out the new 4K sets yet but I still love my Mitsubishi HC5 1080p projector with my new 106" screen. With a Darbee Darblet and DVDO Iscan vp50pro the cost came in at around $4000. The picture also looks very detailed and natural, almost 3D for a 2D picture. It does do 3D as well but I haven't tried that yet (I haven't purchased the emitter and glasses). And with a motorized screen, it gets out of the way for 2 channel music.

The only downside is that I need to use blackout curtains during the day and the thermotex material really holds in the heat. If I use my tube amps it can get might toasty. I usually use a solid state amp for movies to keep down the heat.
 
MusicDirector said:
But, there is no 4K content yet I thought? I've read in several places including the big studio that is re-doing some stuff into 4K that it is still at least 3 years out from being released. I know someone who bought some shares in it.
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Eric, they had a Samsung Blu-ray 4K demo disc. ...About half hour long.

* It was spectacularly good! ...Picture quality wise; beating easily HD (2K). ...And I know a thing or two about 2K on Blus.

By the way, those Blu-ray discs remastered @ 4K and 8K are nowhere near true 4K content.
{Sony has true 4K content; movies on their UHD movie servers. And they are getting more and more and more, including documentaries ...}

4K is here; hardware and software. ...It's only a question of deciding to get it or not, now, and even yesterday.
Plus you can make your own movies (videos) in 4K as well. ...Still pictures too. ...3D? That too, if you really want to.
 
Matt715 said:
I figured they were basing the design off of something like that. It would be interesting to see how a salesperson would try and sell you one of those curved screens vs flat. I have yet to see a curved model in person or a 4k set. I'll put it on my list for the next time I visit the city.
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The salesperson (Zak) was very knowledgeable. The first UltraHD TV that he showed me wasn't a curved model one.
...It was the Samsung F9000 Series (dead flat).
{But before he showed it to me we chatted first, for about ten minutes; talking Curved, 4K, 3D, Size, and all that jazz;
then he knew from where I was coming from.}

Regarding them curved models, he said: "That's the new big thing." ...In reference to the market (masses),
and not to the smart awareness of the true intelligent connoisseurs (like me). ;)

* I know some simple salespersons who made over $300,000 in one single year. ...Not many though, only very few top guns. ...They work on commissions, of course, and even from online (much much much more nowadays compared to only ten years ago).
 
Albert said:
I haven't checked out the new 4K sets yet but I still love my Mitsubishi HC5 1080p projector with my new 106" screen. With a Darbee Darblet and DVDO Iscan vp50pro the cost came in at around $4000. The picture also looks very detailed and natural, almost 3D for a 2D picture. It does do 3D as well but I haven't tried that yet (I haven't purchased the emitter and glasses). And with a motorized screen, it gets out of the way for 2 channel music.

The only downside is that I need to use blackout curtains during the day and the thermotex material really holds in the heat. If I use my tube amps it can get might toasty. I usually use a solid state amp for movies to keep down the heat.
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Albert, I have the sad and true announcement to tell you that you are missing on both 4K and 3D fronts. ...In my very affirmative and humble opinion.
 
NorthStar said:
Eric, they had a Samsung Blu-ray 4K demo disc. ...About half hour long.

* It was spectacularly good! ...Picture quality wise; beating easily HD (2K). ...And I know a thing or two about 2K on Blus.

By the way, those Blu-ray discs remastered @ 4K and 8K are nowhere near true 4K.
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Oh, ok a demo disc, well there ya go. What do you think the demo disc is , if it's not a remaster then? They have not invented a 4K camera yet as far as I know, I could be wrong on that. Actual content that can be purchased or what not is still a ways out, but coming apparently. So one can get ready now.
Personally, I could care less about 4K, 2K, 8K, Blue Ray discs, etc. None of it looks good to me with my eyes. All I see are blurs and digital artifacts, etc. I can't stand Blue ray discs, everything looks like a cartoon. HD TV isn't too bad.
TV is not my thing. All I use my TV for is a monitor to play DVDs and use the Roku. The stuff I watch is not available on BR and certainly won't make it to 4K.
 
It was so good that you'd swear that it was shot in 64K! ...True 64K! ...No Eric, nothing remastered here, just truly mastered.

Of course, ultra high-definition pictures are not for everyone, same as ultra high-end audio gear with ultra high-resolution sound (music) material (Reel-to-Reel tapes, 200gr LPs meticulously cut, high-res audio files; 352kHz/32-bit, DSD Xtra, multichannel hi-res audio for both music and movie mediums, XRCD, etc., etc., etc.).
...Both in physical form and audio Download files.

Only very few people are true audio/video explorers of le tres haut niveau du plus haut-de-gamme (high caliber).

* I and you, are not. ...We're simply no ultra people, just 'tra'. ...Like tra-la-la.
 
Okay, I guess I'll have to check them out.:) But for HD and BluRay, I am happy for now. I guess down the road I'll probably upgrade to a 4K projector.

I still have my 1080i rear projection tv but I will probably toss it this summer (picture starting to go).
 
Oh I'm happy too with HD Blu-ray, for now. But I know too that I'll be there soon, in the 4K territory. There is simply no escaping for a guy like me.

And I'm going to expand size wise as well. When I saw that 80" Shark (Sharp Quattron) TV earlier today, I knew that I was getting much closer to my ideal size for my room. Because I also sit roughly eight feet from my display; the closer the better, and the more ultra high-res (smaller pixels and more of them) the more details you see onscreen. And the more details the more awe there is. ...If the material is on par, of course.

We only have one life; and whatever makes us happier.
 
OLED is the way to go. LG is bringing out 77inch OLED later this year.

Its too hard for Sony, Panasonic and even Samsung to make at the moment. Only LG have the panel manufacturing worked out currently
 
XV-1 said:
OLED is the way to go. LG is bringing out 77inch OLED later this year.

Its too hard for Sony, Panasonic and even Samsung to make at the moment. Only LG have the panel manufacturing worked out currently
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The Samsung curves are OLED and they are probably making non-curved OLEDs as well. Both Samsung and LG are top dogs in TVs right now and both make very good TVs. Vizio is also up there, but they do not make OLED and I don't know if they will.
Sony and Panasonic are not going to get into OLEDs according to industry reports. Panasonic may also pull out of offering TVs all together as well....there have been some whispers to that effect anyway.
 
NorthStar said:
It was so good that you'd swear that it was shot in 64K! ...True 64K! ...No Eric, nothing remastered here, just truly mastered.

Of course, ultra high-definition pictures are not for everyone, same as ultra high-end audio gear with ultra high-resolution sound (music) material (Reel-to-Reel tapes, 200gr LPs meticulously cut, high-res audio files; 352kHz/32-bit, DSD Xtra, multichannel hi-res audio for both music and movie mediums, XRCD, etc., etc., etc.).
...Both in physical form and audio Download files.

Only very few people are true audio/video explorers of le tres haut niveau du plus haut-de-gamme (high caliber).

* I and you, are not. ...We're simply no ultra people, just 'tra'. ...Like tra-la-la.
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Bob, I don't know the French language (except cooking terms).
So I guess they have 4K or 64K cameras now? How did we go from 4K which is not out yet, to 64K?

This is not about cost, at least to me, it's about what is available and what is not. I don't care if a 4K TV is $100k or $10. I'm just trying to figure out what your talking about.

You also claim that you are not a true Audio/Video explorer of high caliber, but you posted about your adventure doing that. You also indicated that you are at least somewhat knowledgeable in the area. I'm a little confused by this.
I know that I am certainly not either one. All I know is what I have read in several places or seen, nothing beyond that. My info in this area is strictly casual as I'm not worried about it because it doesn't have any impact on me. It's just curiosity in passing.
When my DVD players die, I'll get a Blue Ray player to play my DVDs, but that's it. (Only because they don't make DVD players anymore, but the BR players handle DVDs extremely well).
 
1. 64K was simply my sense of humor (going all the way). :)
...Sorry. ...In the future this won't be no humor anymore; it'll happen (we'll both might be dead by then though).

2. They do have 4K cameras, but not 64K (not just yet).

3. For some true videofiles and audiofiles not only you need to have the right bank accounts and stocks (market shares), but also have first hand experience by possessing the goods in your own home, or been exposed directly to it. ..Concrete comparisons with other ultra high-end products of the same category are preferable but not entirely necessary. ...The more the better.

4. I'm talking about my own experience, my croyance, from my readings and comprehension, and I am discussing it with you right here right now on this very post in the most friendly, same level, equal-to-equal, mano-a-mano, fun, pleasant, educational, interesting, with a dose of good humor too (for us the human race), on the internet, in a forum, of an audio website.

5. DVD is fine, Blu-ray is even finer.

* OLED? ...Tough world right now; size wise (easier for your smartphone, not so for front projection screen size). ...We'll see...

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I'm just learning as I go. ...And love to have fun while going. :)
 
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