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depends on how you interpret what Ben really meant https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-ben-franklin-really-said
I got hacked mid-air while writing an Apple-FBI story
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depends on how you interpret what Ben really meant https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-ben-franklin-really-said
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Why it doesn't change the fact that the FBI and Apple will end up in the US Supreme court unless one of them balks. These folks in government today change the way or should I say interpret those outstanding documents to suit their own means . I'm not going down a political trail since we don't discuss politics here.
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There is a show on my local PBS station right now called Human Face of Big Data discussing just how much data is flying around. Thought it to somewhat relevant to the discussion on available data.
I don't quite agree with that technological extrapolation.
Indeed it was Microsoft who was first with touch smartphones with the convergence of Windows CE and the PDA. I still have a HP PDA with a Mobile Sleeve that turned it into a smartphone.
The problem Microsoft had was they hung onto CE for too long. The traditional GUI was unsuitable for such a small footprint that was quite dependant upon a stylus the size of a toothpick. And this is where the Start menu killed them from the start in the smartphone race.
Apple can be credited for the centralised app market that they established by hanging it off iTunes from the iPod days.
Now when you compare the 3 platforms side-by-side. Undoubtedly, Windows 10 Phone is the most sophisticated and technically advanced but it is still failing to capture significant market share.
Indeed it was Microsoft who was first with touch smartphones with the convergence of Windows CE and the PDA. I still have a HP PDA with a Mobile Sleeve that turned it into a smartphone.
The problem Microsoft had was they hung onto CE for too long. The traditional GUI was unsuitable for such a small footprint that was quite dependant upon a stylus the size of a toothpick. And this is where the Start menu killed them from the start in the smartphone race.
Apple can be credited for the centralised app market that they established by hanging it off iTunes from the iPod days.
Now when you compare the 3 platforms side-by-side. Undoubtedly, Windows 10 Phone is the most sophisticated and technically advanced but it is still failing to capture significant market share.
Where has the government been to protect Apple with regard to intellectual property theft [intellectual property terrorism]...Samsung.
Apple’s products came first, then Samsung’s:
For good measure, here’s what Google’s Android looked like before and after Apple’s iPhone:
And, here’s what cellphones looked like before and after Apple’s iPhone:
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Steve I should have clarified, I did not intend suggest Apple created touch.
The history of touch did not start with either Apple or Microsoft.
"the history of multi-touch, dating at least back to 1982, and the use of the pinch gesture, dating back to 1983. This is clearly demonstrated by the bibliography of the PhD thesis of Wayne Westerman, co-founder of FingerWorks, a company that Apple acquired early in 2005, and now an Apple employee"
http://billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html
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History of Touch Screen Technology
1960s
Historians consider the first touch screen to be a capacitive touch screen invented by E.A. Johnson at the Royal Radar Establishment, Malvern, UK, around 1965 – 1967. The inventor published a full description of touch screen technology for air traffic control in an article published in 1968.
1970s
In 1971, a “touch sensor” was developed by Doctor Sam Hurst (founder of Elographics) while he was an instructor at the University of Kentucky. This sensor called the “Elograph” was patented by The University of Kentucky Research Foundation. The “Elograph” was not transparent like modern touch screens, however, it was a significant milestone in touch screen technology. The Elograph was selected by Industrial Research as one of the 100 Most Significant New Technical Products of the Year 1973.
In 1974, the first true touch screen incorporating a transparent surface came on the scene developed by Sam Hurst and Elographics. In 1977, Elographics developed and patented a resistive touch screen technology, the most popular touch screen technology in use today.
In 1977, Siemens Corporation financed an effort by Elographics to produce the first curved glass touch sensor interface, which became the first device to have the name “touch screen” attached to it. On February 24, 1994, the company officially changed its name from Elographics to Elo TouchSystems.
Elographics Patents (Today, the company is Elo Touch Systems)
• US3662105: Electrical Sensor Of Plane Coordinates
Inventor(s)Hurst; George S., Lexington, KY – Parks; James E., Lexington, KY
Issued/Filed Dates:May 9, 1972 / May 21, 1970
• US3798370: Electrographic Sensor For Determining Planar Coordinates
Inventor(s)Hurst; George S. , Oak Ridge, TN
Issued/Filed Dates:March 19, 1974 / April 17, 1972
1980s
In 1983, the computer manufacturing company, Hewlett-Packard introduced the HP-150, a home computer with touch screen technology. The HP-150 had a built in grid of infrared beams across the front of the monitor which detected finger movements. However, the infrared sensors would collect dust and require frequent cleanings.
1990s
The nineties introduced smart phones and handhelds with touch screen technology. In 1993, Apple released the Newton PDA, equipped with handwriting recognition; and IBM released the first smart phone called Simon, which featured a calendar, note pad, and fax function, and a touch screen interface that allowed users to dial phone numbers. In 1996, Palm entered the PDA market and advanced touch screen technology with its Pilot series.
2000s
In 2002, Microsoft introduced the Windows XP Tablet edition and started its entry into touch technology. However, you could say that the increase in the popularity of touch screen smart phones defined the 2000s. In 2007, Apple introduced the king of smart phones, the iPhone, with nothing but touch screen technology.
http://www.tradeshowtouchscreens.co...hnology/who-invented-touch-screen-technology/
1960s
Historians consider the first touch screen to be a capacitive touch screen invented by E.A. Johnson at the Royal Radar Establishment, Malvern, UK, around 1965 – 1967. The inventor published a full description of touch screen technology for air traffic control in an article published in 1968.
1970s
In 1971, a “touch sensor” was developed by Doctor Sam Hurst (founder of Elographics) while he was an instructor at the University of Kentucky. This sensor called the “Elograph” was patented by The University of Kentucky Research Foundation. The “Elograph” was not transparent like modern touch screens, however, it was a significant milestone in touch screen technology. The Elograph was selected by Industrial Research as one of the 100 Most Significant New Technical Products of the Year 1973.
In 1974, the first true touch screen incorporating a transparent surface came on the scene developed by Sam Hurst and Elographics. In 1977, Elographics developed and patented a resistive touch screen technology, the most popular touch screen technology in use today.
In 1977, Siemens Corporation financed an effort by Elographics to produce the first curved glass touch sensor interface, which became the first device to have the name “touch screen” attached to it. On February 24, 1994, the company officially changed its name from Elographics to Elo TouchSystems.
Elographics Patents (Today, the company is Elo Touch Systems)
• US3662105: Electrical Sensor Of Plane Coordinates
Inventor(s)Hurst; George S., Lexington, KY – Parks; James E., Lexington, KY
Issued/Filed Dates:May 9, 1972 / May 21, 1970
• US3798370: Electrographic Sensor For Determining Planar Coordinates
Inventor(s)Hurst; George S. , Oak Ridge, TN
Issued/Filed Dates:March 19, 1974 / April 17, 1972
1980s
In 1983, the computer manufacturing company, Hewlett-Packard introduced the HP-150, a home computer with touch screen technology. The HP-150 had a built in grid of infrared beams across the front of the monitor which detected finger movements. However, the infrared sensors would collect dust and require frequent cleanings.
1990s
The nineties introduced smart phones and handhelds with touch screen technology. In 1993, Apple released the Newton PDA, equipped with handwriting recognition; and IBM released the first smart phone called Simon, which featured a calendar, note pad, and fax function, and a touch screen interface that allowed users to dial phone numbers. In 1996, Palm entered the PDA market and advanced touch screen technology with its Pilot series.
2000s
In 2002, Microsoft introduced the Windows XP Tablet edition and started its entry into touch technology. However, you could say that the increase in the popularity of touch screen smart phones defined the 2000s. In 2007, Apple introduced the king of smart phones, the iPhone, with nothing but touch screen technology.
http://www.tradeshowtouchscreens.co...hnology/who-invented-touch-screen-technology/
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apple with steve always was about the so called "user experience". not inventing new technology per se, but using existing technology in a different way. that was with the mac the ipod and later the iphone and ipad.
because steve knew - sometimes - what people really wanted.
the problem with that, is that it's pretty hard to copy-protect ideas.
and we've see apple without steve. losing it. perhaps now again. i don't know.
but the apple watch definitely has not steve's dna.
concerning the fbi thing - yes, i think the internet is about to become part of the military industrial complex and will not longer be something for, but against the people.
i think it's not only a fbi thing but a general problem we see in the usa. it's about finance, media and a military industrial complex. and it's about losing democracy.
but that's my first and last political statement here.
because steve knew - sometimes - what people really wanted.
the problem with that, is that it's pretty hard to copy-protect ideas.
and we've see apple without steve. losing it. perhaps now again. i don't know.
but the apple watch definitely has not steve's dna.
concerning the fbi thing - yes, i think the internet is about to become part of the military industrial complex and will not longer be something for, but against the people.
i think it's not only a fbi thing but a general problem we see in the usa. it's about finance, media and a military industrial complex. and it's about losing democracy.
but that's my first and last political statement here.
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[h=1]Apple Wins Ruling in New York iPhone Hacking Order[/h]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/01/technology/apple-wins-ruling-in-new-york-iphone-hacking-order.html?_r=0
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A federal magistrate judge on Monday denied the United States government’s request that Apple extract data from an iPhone in a drug case in New York, giving the company’s pro-privacy stance a boost as it battles law enforcement officials over opening up the device in other cases.
The ruling, from Judge James Orenstein in New York’s Eastern District, is the first time that the government’s legal argument for opening up devices like the iPhone has been put to the test. The denial could influence other cases where law enforcement officials are trying to compel Apple to help unlock iPhones, including the standoff between Apple and the F.B.I. over the iPhone used by one of the attackers in a mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif., last year.
Judge Orenstein, in his 50-page ruling on Monday, took particular aim at a 1789 statute called the All Writs Act that underlies many government requests for extracting data from tech companies. The All Writs Act broadly says that courts can require actions to comply with their orders when not covered by existing law. Judge Orenstein said the government was inflating its authority by using the All Writs Act to force Apple to extract data from an iPhone seized in connection with a drug case.
The government’s view of the All Writs Act is so expansive as to cast doubt on its constitutionality if adopted, Judge Orenstein wrote.
The All Writs Act is also being invoked in the fight over an iPhone in the San Bernardino shooting, which has publicly pitted Apple against the government. Apple’s chief executive, Timothy D. Cook, has refused to comply with a federal court order to help break into the phone, saying that he needs to protect the data of all customers. That has set off a far-reaching debate over privacy and security."
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A federal magistrate judge on Monday denied the United States government’s request that Apple extract data from an iPhone in a drug case in New York, giving the company’s pro-privacy stance a boost as it battles law enforcement officials over opening up the device in other cases.
The ruling, from Judge James Orenstein in New York’s Eastern District, is the first time that the government’s legal argument for opening up devices like the iPhone has been put to the test. The denial could influence other cases where law enforcement officials are trying to compel Apple to help unlock iPhones, including the standoff between Apple and the F.B.I. over the iPhone used by one of the attackers in a mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif., last year.
Judge Orenstein, in his 50-page ruling on Monday, took particular aim at a 1789 statute called the All Writs Act that underlies many government requests for extracting data from tech companies. The All Writs Act broadly says that courts can require actions to comply with their orders when not covered by existing law. Judge Orenstein said the government was inflating its authority by using the All Writs Act to force Apple to extract data from an iPhone seized in connection with a drug case.
The government’s view of the All Writs Act is so expansive as to cast doubt on its constitutionality if adopted, Judge Orenstein wrote.
The All Writs Act is also being invoked in the fight over an iPhone in the San Bernardino shooting, which has publicly pitted Apple against the government. Apple’s chief executive, Timothy D. Cook, has refused to comply with a federal court order to help break into the phone, saying that he needs to protect the data of all customers. That has set off a far-reaching debate over privacy and security."
More under the NYT link above