Hegel H360 - fire

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The inside don't look good at all - like at rat nest!



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That tarpaulin plastic sheet at the left speaker input does not look good - if it melts or is displaced, then poof!

A lot of insulation tape on the out leads from the transformer - is that normal?
 
Does anybody know if the Hegel was operating or on standby when the fire started? It is amazing that with all the audio equipment left on or partially on 24/7 we don't have more catastrophic failures. Catastrophe = fire.
 
That's an obvious knee-jerk reaction, but I've seen plenty of USA and European made electronics go up in flames too.

Yes, very true. But Hegel prides itself and markets that they use only hand selected,hand matching transistors and low tolerance parts.
 
Really?? I have never seen a piece of audio electronics go up in flames and I have been around this hobby for a long time. It would be great if they did an autopsy and figure out the cause of death.

My bet is on defective capacitor.
 
In the pre-Internet days this would have just been an incident at a dealer showroom that practically no one would have ever heard a word about. Now a days you can't fart in the grocery store without someone video recording it and plastering it on YouTube for the world to see.
 
Here's the $64 million question: would this one isolated incident prevent you from purchasing a Hegel product?

For me, I owned the H30 and it was excellent. In fact, I can tell you, a friend of mine who is a die hard tube fanatic was over and he heard the Hegel H30 and he said to me, "I hate solid state, but this, this Hegel is really really good." I would happily own the H30 again. I would also love to try the H4SE. Something about that amp has me very curious.

What about you guys?
 
There is a bad apple in every bunch. It would not deter me as long as they honored the warranty when it smokes.

It doesn't have to catch on fire to be a dud, just a bit more exciting.
 
Here's the $64 million question: would this one isolated incident prevent you from purchasing a Hegel product?

For me, I owned the H30 and it was excellent. In fact, I can tell you, a friend of mine who is a die hard tube fanatic was over and he heard the Hegel H30 and he said to me, "I hate solid state, but this, this Hegel is really really good." I would happily own the H30 again. I would also love to try the H4SE. Something about that amp has me very curious.

What about you guys?

I have been toying with idea of downsizing from my ARC Ref 3 and Ref 110 combo and will be demoing an H300 at home. Picking up the demo unit from Goodwins tomorrow after a Linn digital demo at the shop and will have it for a few days at home. Just curious.
 
Here's the $64 million question: would this one isolated incident prevent you from purchasing a Hegel product?

For me, I owned the H30 and it was excellent. In fact, I can tell you, a friend of mine who is a die hard tube fanatic was over and he heard the Hegel H30 and he said to me, "I hate solid state, but this, this Hegel is really really good." I would happily own the H30 again. I would also love to try the H4SE. Something about that amp has me very curious.

What about you guys?

Here is the real $64 million dollar question: How do you know this is "one" isolated incident? Lots of SS preamps and phono sections are designed to stay powered on at all times. My Krell KBL, KRC-HR and KPE Reference had no on/off switch. Once you plug them in, they are powered on 24/7. Stereo gear isn't supposed to be able to go up in flames. That's why we have fuses at critical junctures so if something does go wrong, power is removed. If I found out that a piece of SS gear that I happen to also own and always left powered on 24/7 caught on fire somewhere in the world, I would be scared to death because how would I know if the manufacturer had a design flaw in the circuit or if it was made in China that the Chinese hadn't substituted some counterfeit parts that didn't have the voltage rating of the original 'real' part?
 
I have been toying with idea of downsizing from my ARC Ref 3 and Ref 110 combo and will be demoing an H300 at home. Picking up the demo unit from Goodwins tomorrow after a Linn digital demo at the shop and will have it for a few days at home. Just curious.

Going from tubes to solid state? You may have to turn in your audiophile card. :)
 
Going from tubes to solid state? You may have to turn in your audiophile card. :)

Cyril should be demoing the ARC 5SE and Ref 75SE against his Ref 3 and Ref 110. :D
 
I know gents...I am just exploring the downsizing option...likely outcome, I will stick with the ARC separates and pony up $2K to retube all three components (if order tubes from ARC...if not, about $1K from the Tube Store).
 
I know gents...I am just exploring the downsizing option...likely outcome, I will stick with the ARC separates and pony up $2K to retube all three components (if order tubes from ARC...if not, about $1K from the Tube Store).

Every time I hear the word "downsizing," I find it depressing usually. Most times it means someone is too old and/or no longer has the money to enjoy the things they used to. I hope by the time I fell ready to "downsize" that I'm around 110 years old.
 
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