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Mike

Mike

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New Health, Wellness and Medicine forum to help our members share good ideas for a healthy lifestyle.
 
I think if you follow their advice, you will be healthy and have no friends vs. sickly and all the friends one could desire. That said, their advice seems a little strange as the active chemical in garlic degrades with exposure to air. That's why once you cut garlic, it begins to lose it's properties.
 
I'm eating garlic, lots of it, but not dried and included in pills but just fresh (as is) or added to sauces. My friends don't mind and my mouth does not smell (but yes, I'm lucky my wife loves it too).
There are several tricks to get rid of garlicky breath: mint/eucalypt drops, fresh parsley leaves and (obviously) a good oral hygiene. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not consuming it on a daily basis but roasted chicken or fish cooked on a salt bed served without the traditional "mujdei" (a sauce made of crushed garlic with water, oil, vinegar and salt) would lose most of their taste.
 
Don't do the garlic/wine drink thing from the link. Look, I love wine, but you're only kidding yourself to think it's going to help you get fit. And one spoonful of anything (that's natural, not poison) is not going to help you lose fat. The only drinks good for getting fit are water, coffee, tea. And milk, depending on your dietary needs -- sometimes with protein powder if you lift. I find that coffee (caf or decaf) works particularly well as a natural appetite suppressant -- drink it black if possible, and never any sugar. Apples are great too for a filling low-cal snack -- 1 or 2 of these a day.
 
If you've tried it let me know

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Garlic drink sounds nothing like the most powerful healing drink, but once you find out how easy you can make it and learn more about its benefits, you will sure want to have it in your kitchen.

It can eliminate the salt and salt deposits in your body, strengthen the organism, fight viruses, infections and bacteria, purify the blood, and strengthen the immune system, blood vessels and heart function.



This drink eliminates the excess fat and boosts your metabolism. You can use it to treat diseases and inflammations common in women, and in addition to all the above, it cleanses the harmful deposits in the body.

Ingredients:

12 garlic cloves
17 oz/ 1/2 liter of red wine

Preparation:

Cut 12 garlic cloves into quarters and put the pieces in a jar.
Add 1/2 liter of red wine.
Close the jar well and keep it close to the window, exposed to direct sunlight, for two weeks.
Shake the content in the jar several times a day.
Filter the liquid after two weeks and keep it in a dark glass bottle.

Consume a teaspoon of the drink three times a day for a whole month, and repeat the treatment after six months.
 
May I add my $0.02?
Never start any "strong" diet before consulting your physician, you can get malnutrition (with anemia, hypoglycemia and low concentration effects) even if you're outright overweight!
 
Would that be a physician that has studied medicine & not nutrition?
 
bzr said:
If you've tried it let me know

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Garlic drink sounds nothing like the most powerful healing drink, but once you find out how easy you can make it and learn more about its benefits, you will sure want to have it in your kitchen.

It can eliminate the salt and salt deposits in your body, strengthen the organism, fight viruses, infections and bacteria, purify the blood, and strengthen the immune system, blood vessels and heart function.



This drink eliminates the excess fat and boosts your metabolism. You can use it to treat diseases and inflammations common in women, and in addition to all the above, it cleanses the harmful deposits in the body.

Ingredients:

12 garlic cloves
17 oz/ 1/2 liter of red wine

Preparation:

Cut 12 garlic cloves into quarters and put the pieces in a jar.
Add 1/2 liter of red wine.
Close the jar well and keep it close to the window, exposed to direct sunlight, for two weeks.
Shake the content in the jar several times a day.
Filter the liquid after two weeks and keep it in a dark glass bottle.

Consume a teaspoon of the drink three times a day for a whole month, and repeat the treatment after six months.[/QUOTEDeleted.
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iosiP said:
May I add my $0.02?
Never start any "strong" diet before consulting your physician, you can get malnutrition (with anemia, hypoglycemia and low concentration effects) even if you're outright overweight!
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What in the world is a strong diet? I've studied nutrition and have never heard that term before.
 
I have been using the Isagenix Detox program for several years. It is a whole body molecular level detox, not just a colon cleanse. The theory behind why Detoxing also helps you lose weight is due to the fact that our bodies encapsulate toxins with fat cells. You can diet and exercise all you want, but if you don't get rid of all the toxins, you cannot get rid of all the fat.

The very first time we did the program, we did it for 2 weeks. (you can choose 9day, 14day, or 1 month programs) I went from 184 down to 162 in those first 2 weeks and for the last 5 years of watching and maintenance weeks (sometimes the whole detox program) I have kept my weight between 164 and 167.

My wife has recently gotten into Intermittent Fasting and that is also working out for her. We also have fruit and veggie smoothies several meals each week along with drinking alkaline water to counteract the acidity we accumulate.

Many years ago after getting married and then gaining a lot of weight, I cut out butter and soda from my eating and got a Nordic Track. I went from 220lbs to 160lbs in less than 6 months and it took between 15 and 20 years to get back up to the 184lbs I was at 5 years ago.

Thanks for the additional forum Mike!
 
Shadowfax said:
By the way, Diets do not work. Lifestyle changes do work!
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Actually that's incorrect. All diets work. It's a question though just how long can you stay on them. Another way is looking at the five year diet results, eg. Did the dieters keep the weight off. Sadly in many cases no. And much of that has to do with simply dieting that wrecks the bodies metabolism. That why we have the yo-yo dieting effects.

When you look at some recent diet studies, the amount of weight lost from the "best" diet to the "worst" diet was three pounds. That's three pounds! Not a lot of difference considering all the hoopla. The factor that separates the diets was one thing: compliance.

Other factors weight into the picture as in that recent study from Harvard where they evaluated 12 or more markers of three popular diets besides weight loss. Of all the different markers other than metabolic effects, perhaps the most important related to health was looking at inflammatory markers from each diet.

As far as lifestyle changes. That's much easier said than done since knowledge does not change human behavior. There are now scores of books out there in the areas of motivation, habits, challenges, decisions, brain duality, etc. The problem boils down to individuality and personality. Everybody is different what works for client a won't work for client b eg. There is no cookie cutter approach to weight loss. What there is is exercise.
 
I agree Myles, and the basic definition of most diets would make them a temporary thing, not a lifestyle change. I know first hand how hard it is to stop eating certain things and almost never eat them again. Case in point, 25 years ago I used to drink several sodas a day. Now I drink several sodas per year.


Switched over to Beer :)

As for Garlic, find my tutorial thread in the off topic forum and grow your own. So much tastier and different than the year old stuff you buy at the store that is already trying to sprout the next growth before you can eat it.

http://audioshark.org/hobbies-113/growing-garlic-clove-head-pics-5124.html#.VK7fAXtu49w

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Myles B. Astor said:
What in the world is a strong diet? I've studied nutrition and have never heard that term before.
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Myles, English is not my first language so please give me a little slack! By "strong diet" I mean one that promises several pounds of weight loss every week. I think those destroy the metabolism and have, as you said, a yo-yo effect.
I'm not fat (actually, I'm skinny for my age and height) but even if I were fat I wouldn't start a severe low (or no) carbo diet without first asking my physician (and having a full set of blood tests).
 
iosiP said:
Myles, English is not my first language so please give me a little slack! By "strong diet" I mean one that promises several pounds of weight loss every week. I think those destroy the metabolism and have, as you said, a yo-yo effect.
I'm not fat (actually, I'm skinny for my age and height) but even if I were fat I wouldn't start a severe low (or no) carbo diet without first asking my physician (and having a full set of blood tests).
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I thought that what you meant by "strong diet" was pretty clear -- a calorie reduction significantly more than 500 calories below your daily maintenance rate. Definitely not the best plan for most folks -- slow and steady wins the race in most cases. Not to mention the health risks involved anytime you subject a human body to anything "extreme".

That said, if you want several episodes of "Naked and Afraid", some of those folks go in looking pudgy and come out looking pretty good (a couple of the ladies ended up too thin), from what amounts to 21 days of nearly total starvation. Caveats being they were all young and extremely healthy, assumed large risks, and endured horrific suffering. That said, I was surprised that some of them came out looking pretty good. Maybe they were fed vitamins off-camera?
 
iosiP said:
Myles, English is not my first language so please give me a little slack! By "strong diet" I mean one that promises several pounds of weight loss every week. I think those destroy the metabolism and have, as you said, a yo-yo effect.
I'm not fat (actually, I'm skinny for my age and height) but even if I were fat I wouldn't start a severe low (or no) carbo diet without first asking my physician (and having a full set of blood tests).
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Actually that is not true. The important thing is not the calories but exercise. A relatively recent study entailed putting an overweight, borderline obese population On an 800 calorie per day diet and the effect on their metabolism/weight was studied over a five month span. 800 calories/day is considered extreme and AFAIK in all states can only be prescribed by a physician. (Simplistically assuming a normal diet is 2000 calories a day, this should result in 2.33 lbs weight loss a week.) One group dieted while the second contingent dieted and did resistance training at the same time. The first group lost weight but also decreased their metabolism. The latter group, even though on a strict diet not only lost weight but also maintained their metabolism. So the conclusion of the study was that it's exercise and not calories that are responsible for increasing metabolism eg. Muscle mass.
 
mulveling said:
I thought that what you meant by "strong diet" was pretty clear -- a calorie reduction significantly more than 500 calories below your daily maintenance rate. Definitely not the best plan for most folks -- slow and steady wins the race in most cases. Not to mention the health risks involved anytime you subject a human body to anything "extreme".

That said, if you want several episodes of "Naked and Afraid", some of those folks go in looking pudgy and come out looking pretty good (a couple of the ladies ended up too thin), from what amounts to 21 days of nearly total starvation. Caveats being they were all young and extremely healthy, assumed large risks, and endured horrific suffering. That said, I was surprised that some of them came out looking pretty good. Maybe they were fed vitamins off-camera?
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Again, no where in nutrition is there a definition of strong. I understand that English is not IOSP's first language but pardon me if it's confusing. I'd like to know where you pulled 500 calories out of? If a normal person's diet is 2000 calories/day, it's only below 1200 calories per day that requires a doctor's note. Or for instance, I at 60 years old, require around 3500 calories a day (determined using indirect calorimetry). So I could eat 2300 calories less before running into an extreme diet. That's the issue when you try and generalize when it comes to medicine, fitness, nutrition, since every person is an individual with different needs.

And as far as extreme, you can eat a "normal" plant based or for that matter any diet and put yourself in a deficiency. But do you know how many cases of deficiencies are actually seen in the Western hemisphere? Much fewer than you think. Where you see nutritional deficiencies is by far and away in third world countries. That's because pretty much everything we eat, for better or worse, is supplemented.
 
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