Has anyone compared Brooklyn Bridge, Teac NT-505, Lumin D2/T2 streamer dacs?

Ok, I see that he says that, and he says he runs Roon. That is cool, but he also does not mention what he is running Roon on (maybe on missed it). He also says he is looking for a one box solution. My point is, a streamer cannot run Roon Core (or at least the ones he has mentioned) and therefore he does need to use another device. Maybe what he has is fine...

Pre-configured music servers; Roon Nucleus, W4S, SGC, etc., are all in essence computers. Many of these companies play on the fact that people are inherently timid about computers and they talk like their solutions either don't need a computer or are easier then computers (even if they are actually computers, i.e. SGC, Roon Nucleus etc.).

The Roon software already can handle Tidal and Qbuz, etc., so I guess my main concern is what in the heck is a streamer device going to do for someone who is either already running Roon on a separate device or wants to run Roon? A streamer cannot, by itself run Roon Core, a requirement for Roon. Therefore a "one-box solution" and Roon is not always what people think. I have dealt with far too many people who think they are.

With that I am out. I get really tired dealing with these companies that make very simply concept and functions seem really complicated playing on people's fears. But, I am also tired of trying to help people realize how digital works and have it become a huge deal. It really is very simple. You have your files, download, ripped, etc. You want to use Roon, excellent it is the best; use a device that runs Roon Core, hook it to your DAC, hook it to your system. Use your controller device such as a tablet to control Roon on your Core device (they can be the same device but I prefer my Core and Controller separate so I don't have to go to the device to do the controlling)... Bam... done.... USB works really really well but not in very long runs.
 
All thee of the components I asked about are Roon ready. The units I asked about are network capable. I'm not looking for a Roon core (already taken care of). Just streamer that is Roon endpoint capable.
 
Randy, I believe you may have been trying to "out Think" the original question. Roon Ready does have significance. The units were tested by Roon and recognize the device when plugging it with a default setting within Roon. Yes, pretty much any Dac can be fed a Roon signal used as an endpoint for Roon, however, you may have to manually set up everything including name, basic settings, etc. If you plug in a Lumin product, Roon will recognize it and all you have to do is add the endpoint to your list. You can do "extra" custom settings, however, Roon will have the most common set up plug in ready. Streamers that have built in Roon Server capabilities and Roon Ready are two different things.
 
Sooner or later I will learn...

Anyway enjoy.

By the way, I am a huge Roon fan and own a lifetime subscription. I would not even consider using another product at this point in time.
 
Roon Tested is simply a DAC that is tested to work with Roon on a computer. However it does not guarantee Roon Nucleus or ROCK compatibility for high DSD rate, like Randy's DAC before a firmware fix becomes available in the future.

Roon Ready is a totally different thing for a DAC with network input. It actually has RAAT software SDK integrated into the endpoint in addition to getting certified by Roon Labs.

It is best practice to have separate Roon Core and endpoint. This is not said by me but by Roon Labs as their #1 rule for sound quality.
https://kb.roonlabs.com/Sound_Quality
 
Yes. I only think there are one or two products, that can run a core (Roon server) and has built in DAC. I'm actually finished with all the questions on the various forums and have the info I need. By digging a lot I have learned so much (I did not know MYTEK MQA filters have to be manually switched on/off).

My choices are D2 or hopefully T2. Every audio forum mentions how Roon and the Lumins work hand in hand. Plus, the least amount of complaints (connection issues, dropouts, etc) I have heard are with the Lumins. The T2 looks like a device that will stay relevant (technology wise) for may years to come. Plus, if some new DAC takes over the audio world by storm, I can still use the network portion of the T2.

The D2 has all the features (except USB out) of the T2, and is a good buy. Like a dealer told me, the D2 will be such an improvement to what I have, that I would not worry about the T2. However, the dealer stated, if you listen to the T2, it would be hard to choose the D2.

Thanks everyone for their input.
 
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