Harbeth 40.2 Announced at Munich

joeinid said:
If the Lampizator 211 SET amp at 100wpc arrives soon, I feel it will be stunning on any Harbeth. Having slightly more power vs not enough is very much preferred.
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Can't wait to hear your impression Joe.

Yes I agree with Joe. The Harbeth needs some power to make them sing.
 
joeinid said:
My advice? It depends if you prefer tubes over SS. I feel both can be excellent. My Devialet is amazing on my 40.1's as was my Hegel H30. I do "prefer" my GAT/ART above all else but moderate to higher powered tubes are glorious. My LM219IA was stunning but I feel a little underpowered. If the Lampizator 211 SET amp at 100wpc arrives soon, I feel it will be stunning on any Harbeth. Having slightly more power vs not enough is very much preferred.
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+1. The Harbies I've owned...3s, 7s, and 30.1s; were rich and warm. So OT1H, you can supplement that warmth...with luscious tubes.

OTOH...you can contrast it, with some clean SS power. Either way...as Mike said; it's a music lover's speaker...as opposed to a gear lover's.

Put another way...it won't impress, anyone but YOU :)
 
Simple answer: the M40.1 was an absolute bargain. The planning of the M40.2 instigated a full re-costing of the model, and we got the shock of our lives when the total cost was rolled up. There had been a costing error in the Bill of Materials, persisting for many years, and once this was corrected, the true cost of making the 40.1/40.2 was exposed.

So: if you can get your hands on an M40.1 and you are on a careful budget, now is a very good time. We are still building M40.1 and are likely to do so for some months yet for customers who are entirely satisfied with the M40.1 at its price point.
Alan A. Shaw
Designer, owner
Harbeth Audio UK

http://www.harbeth.co.uk/usergroup/showthread.php?2619-New-Harbeth-Monitor-40-2&p=34751#post34751
 
a.wayne said:
Do most Harbeth Owners use tubes or SS .........?
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I use both.
SS : Nagra MSA.
Tubes : Shindo CCQ.
Preamps are the Shindo Giscours for both amps and I also use an Electrocompaniet EC4.6 with the MSA.
The Harbeth 40.1 is highly revealing so I really get very different flavors with my amps and preamps.


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Jerome W said:
I use both.
SS : Nagra MSA.
Tubes : Shindo CCQ.
Preamps are the Shindo Giscours for both amps and I also use an Electrocompaniet EC4.6 with the MSA.
The Harbeth 40.1 is highly revealing so I really get very different flavors with my amps and preamps.


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What happen to your french tube amps ? ( sorry cant remember the name )
 
Paul said:
What happen to your french tube amps ? ( sorry cant remember the name )
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Very simple :
- No one seems to be interested in the CCQs
- I listened again to them with various music and understood again why I felt in love with them.
- The Halgorythme amps are probably a better match with my 40.1, but I do not need 2 sets of tube monoblocks. The CCQs are fabulous at low volume on the 40.1. They fill the room with an incredible weight and presence. So if I do not sell them, I keep them and I am as happy as a king.

Paul, it goes with hifi like with women. You can always find "better" if you look for it.
But "better" at first glance will reveal to be only "different" with time.

I stopped comparing. I enjoy what I have.
I will listen to the 40.2 new filter, just because basically we are talking probably of an other flavor of the same speaker. Only a filter change.
And I will "upgrade" if the differences are really an upgrade. If the treble becomes bright and aggressive like the SHL5, I will keep my 40.1 as they are !


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Jerome W said:
Joe....
40.1 owners will be able to upgrade their speakers to the 40.2. It is just the filter to be changed. This was the information I got from Harbeth. But they added " in theory".



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Hi Jerome,

Really? I did not see that anywhere. Do they have to go back to Harbeth or can the local distributor do the upgrade?
 
joeinid said:
Hi Jerome,

Really? I did not see that anywhere. Do they have to go back to Harbeth or can the local distributor do the upgrade?
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Hi Joe,
Local distributor should be able to desolder and resolder a filter, I guess.
I got this information directly from the Harbeth FB page.


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Jerome W said:
Hi Joe,
Local distributor should be able to desolder and resolder a filter, I guess.
I got this information directly from the Harbeth FB page.


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Awesome! I'm looking for it now. Thank you!
 
Joe, I noticed Harbeth haven't published the frequency range of the 40.2's on the website. Any idea of the spec?
 
Bodhi said:
Joe, I noticed Harbeth haven't published the frequency range of the 40.2's on the website. Any idea of the spec?
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I'm sure details are coming, they seem to be playing it close to the vest for now.
 
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Frequency response? LOL.

They make beautiful music. Next question? :audiophile:

All kidding aside, I suspect it hasn't changed much over the 40.1.
 
The 40.1 only have two problems related to the Harbeth marketing.
1/ you cannot put them on an Ikea table, unless if you listen at peaks of 60dB. They need pretty expensive isolation. In my experience, if you spend less than about 2000 dollars in isolation for them, you are just not able to listen to them as they were built to sound.
2/ they cannot fit in small rooms. Unless once again if you listen at very low volume.


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