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Furutech Nanoflux .... speaker cable
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Nice! What's the metallurgy?
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Probably the same like in PowerNano
Which is?
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Mike, in Power Nanoflux the conductors have a diameter of 3.8mm and each one of them is made from α (Alpha) Nano OCC copper, cryogenically treated covered with Nano Liquid (squalene oil) with gold and silver particles with a size of 8 nm (8/1000000mm). This treatment covers every possible irregularity of the surface of the conductor. To make it even more difficult, each lead consists of 7 bundles of 62 conductors each. The isolation is made from a few elastic layers and the cable is shielded with a braid made of copper. The external isolation is made from PVC with increased elasticity and covered with a dark-blue sheath made from nylon, with a white crossing thread in it. (more in our Power Nanoflux review)
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Are you sure the new Furutech cable is OCC? I thought Furukowa stopped production in 2013... They have a new process which has long grains oriented in the direction of the wire...
Thank you.
I've always found most all copper cables, more similar than different sounding. There are differences, yes, but not as big as going to a cable with a different metallurgy to me. It's only when you introduce silver and silver/gold combo do things get really interesting.
I've been ruined by the silver-gold of Siltech. Even the more modestly priced stuff is all silver-gold (yes, there actually is some of this). It's like audio crack.
Carry on...back to the new Furutech cables.
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I've always found most all copper cables, more similar than different sounding. There are differences, yes, but not as big as going to a cable with a different metallurgy to me. It's only when you introduce silver and silver/gold combo do things get really interesting.
I've been ruined by the silver-gold of Siltech. Even the more modestly priced stuff is all silver-gold (yes, there actually is some of this). It's like audio crack.
Carry on...back to the new Furutech cables.
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I'd agree, but if you look at the price of my copper vs silver/gold alloy speaker cable the difference is huge, as it should be because it is quite an improvement. Sometime you should try my silver/gold alloy cable, it's made using the OCC process and is in another league vs Siltech's silver/gold wire. I have not compared my cables vs the Triple Crown, but they use OCC silver where I use OCC silver/gold alloy... I'd expect my cables to be a bit better.
I'll see if Furutech USA is willing to loan me a set of the new NanoFlux SCs, I'd like to give them a try...
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HOLY SHIT Mike!! Now theres a challenge, let me know if they are as good or better than Siltech please. If they are I'm buying!!
Yes, I have to stomp on the Siltech critique also. It is not just about the metallurgy. What about geometry, composition, construction, termination.
SILTECH shielding technology in their Royal Signature range is unsurpassed by any other. I challenge ANY other hifi cable manufacturer to demonstrate otherwise.
I recall one particular hifi cable manufacturer had little to no regard on the importance of EMI and RFI isolation and the effects to and from active electronics until recently.... Maybe, he was blinkered by his own pseudo science.
No doubt the Furutech Nano is great. Siltech also do terminate with the Furutech carbon rhodium but the Furtech solutions overall are still not in the same league as Siltech imo.
I have also found that when it comes to Fururech bulk wire of any sort, better results will be achieved by braiding with Techflex Flexo conductive.
I use Fururech products extensively. I also own Siltech products.
Why don't I own more Siltech or use Siltech exclusively? Because the price is unrealistic in my reality.
SILTECH shielding technology in their Royal Signature range is unsurpassed by any other. I challenge ANY other hifi cable manufacturer to demonstrate otherwise.
I recall one particular hifi cable manufacturer had little to no regard on the importance of EMI and RFI isolation and the effects to and from active electronics until recently.... Maybe, he was blinkered by his own pseudo science.
No doubt the Furutech Nano is great. Siltech also do terminate with the Furutech carbon rhodium but the Furtech solutions overall are still not in the same league as Siltech imo.
I have also found that when it comes to Fururech bulk wire of any sort, better results will be achieved by braiding with Techflex Flexo conductive.
I use Fururech products extensively. I also own Siltech products.
Why don't I own more Siltech or use Siltech exclusively? Because the price is unrealistic in my reality.
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Steve, no critique intended, Siltech makes very nice products. All the things you mention matter, but let's not get into it here.... 
Mike, different strokes... some people think techflex and PVC are ugly. There is a rationale for the plain cotton jacket I use (2 layers of unbleached, natural cotton) and that is mechanical damping. The combination of the cotton jacket and black fabric heat shrink makes for a retro look, some think it's cool but I guess others do not, lol.. It goes well with the preamp I made recently. If you don't like it I can add any kind of techflex available. I'm trying to offer the best value possible so I also use minimal packaging, no display boxes, etc. I will say my D4 IC cables have regularly been preferred over the Siltech silver/gold IC cables, and it's likely they would beat out Siltech and Wireworld's top end cables too. I have some people using my cables who could have bought other brands at over 50% discounts. The conductors used in the Triple Crowns and my cables are made in the same factory, but they charge me a lot more for the addition of gold. Siltech and Wireworld use very heavy gauge UPOCC silver to achieve the best body and timbre, I use gold. I still use a lot of wire, but not 17g aggregate, more like 20g. Both approaches work to alleviate the shortcomings of pure silver, but I find the addition of gold more to my taste.
Maybe later in '16 I'll have a line of cables with nitrogen dielectric (air dielectric = corrosion) and fancy shielding system that will be sold through dealers at much higher prices for folks that need that last little bit no matter the cost. But my current cables are still better than a vast majority of the big brands best efforts.
Mike, different strokes... some people think techflex and PVC are ugly. There is a rationale for the plain cotton jacket I use (2 layers of unbleached, natural cotton) and that is mechanical damping. The combination of the cotton jacket and black fabric heat shrink makes for a retro look, some think it's cool but I guess others do not, lol..
It goes well with the preamp I made recently. If you don't like it I can add any kind of techflex available. I'm trying to offer the best value possible so I also use minimal packaging, no display boxes, etc. I will say my D4 IC cables have regularly been preferred over the Siltech silver/gold IC cables, and it's likely they would beat out Siltech and Wireworld's top end cables too. I have some people using my cables who could have bought other brands at over 50% discounts. The conductors used in the Triple Crowns and my cables are made in the same factory, but they charge me a lot more for the addition of gold. Siltech and Wireworld use very heavy gauge UPOCC silver to achieve the best body and timbre, I use gold. I still use a lot of wire, but not 17g aggregate, more like 20g. Both approaches work to alleviate the shortcomings of pure silver, but I find the addition of gold more to my taste. Maybe later in '16 I'll have a line of cables with nitrogen dielectric (air dielectric = corrosion) and fancy shielding system that will be sold through dealers at much higher prices for folks that need that last little bit no matter the cost. But my current cables are still better than a vast majority of the big brands best efforts.
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What's the pin type connectors on the ends and how are they used on these cables ??
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From the amp side are spades, and from speakers side bananas - of course both from Furutech top range
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I'm looking at the fine threads at end of banana ?? connector how are connectors used ?? seems like I've seen female threaded connectors on amps for speakers...
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The bananas are locking... you put the pin into the binding post and rotate the carbon fiber/stainless cover while holding the back of the banana. The banana's pin is in 4 parts lengthwise that expand away from one another to lock the banana into place.
Hi Kevin, the black ring with what looks like "fine threads" is a composite damping ring. The composite damping ring itself does not thread into anything on the speaker terminal end.
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Are you sure the NCF tech will trickle into non power related products? It's obvious it will make it to the 20A AC and IEC models and I suspect the Shunko's as well but was wondering about other connector types.
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Hey Y'all thanks it makes sense now, Merry Christmas...