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I don't even know what all that means. A $6000 TV? I'm sure it's great....just like a $6000 power cord. :)
 
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Mike said:
I don't even know what all that means. A $6000 TV? I'm sure it's great....just like a $6000 power cord. :)
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It only means that right now it's the only game in town; DisplayPort & True 4K @ 60fps (all other 4K HDTVs are only 30fps).

The higher end Magnolia stores have them; go have a look. :)

* How much is a pair of Magico S5's?
 
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NorthStar said:
It only means that right now it's the only game in town; DisplayPort & True 4K @ 60fps (all other 4K HDTVs are only 30fps).

The higher end Magnolia stores have them; go have a look. :)

* How much is a pair of Magico S5's?
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$30k ish....
 
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Ok, that 65" Ultra HDTV is five times less. :) MSRP

* And of course the prices will come down (to roughly $3,999, and even less).
And competition; from Samsung, Sony, LG, Sharp.

And OLED 4K... Expensive right now though, and few glitches still to resolve (not ready for prime time IMO).

And plasmas (by Panasonic) are supposed to be made no more, by April 2014. ...Not profitable, to the contrary; Panasonic is losing money on plasmas (the demand is dying).
 
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How much 4K content is out there? There are tons of 1080p sets in peoples homes right now (and have been for years) and the only 1080p media is Blu-ray. The last time I paid any attention to this stuff, most cable providers have 720p resolution for programs with some 1080i thrown in here and there.

So here we have 1080p sets with one type of media able to fully show off what these sets are capable of. And now we are seeing 4K sets being pushed out and how much 4K content is available? I do understand the need for these manufacturers to continue making advances in technology, but shouldn't we let those in charge of public broadcasting catch up to the technology from years ago? Quite frankly I don't see there being any 1080p programming on TV because it would cost too much money for the networks.

Am I close to the truth here or perhaps this technology has passed me by also. Let me know if I'm totally wrong please! :)
 
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Well, 3D is not catching up with consumers; applications (Smart TVs) are.

So 4K is just the new best big thing (& OLED & other stuff too). And what those new 4K UHD TVs are mainly good for is 1080p upscaled (actual use; 96.666%+).
And with 8,294,400 pixels (3840 x 2160), or basically double the horizontal and vertical resolution of the best current HD (1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600 pixels or four times less resolution than Ultra HD), the pixel structure is virtually invisible, even sitting very close to the screen, and that greatly minimizes the potential for artifacts.

So for some time to come that's what most people will be doing; upscaling 1080p to 4K.

=> There are only very few short Internet 4K downloads, plus the output of some video cameras.
4K material must currently be sourced from a computer server with 4K files (Sony has one, if you buy their high-end 4K HDTV LCD LED flat panel, or 4K front projector; both at $25,000 each).
And that Sony 4K server contains roughly 70 preloaded 4K movies plus a variety of shorter material.
Sony has the advantage here; as it is the only company to offer such. ...And is engaged in remastering dozen of titles in 4K, in one form or another.
And Sony owns a major Hollywood/World movie studio (Sony Pictures Classics/Columbia/Tristar/Screen Gems).
- New movies are increasingly shot digitally in 4K as well.

Eventually new Blu-ray players (we'll have to get rid of the ones we have now) able to read the new HEVC (high-efficiency video coding) standard will replace the AVC standard commonly used for Blu-rays. ...So true 4K movies and other programming are possible on disc (Ultra Blu-ray). And like I said; zero chance to be compatible with existing Blu-ray players.
And! There is zero publicly announced plans for such a disc format.

Methinks that physical packaged media is aiming the way of the dodo (extinction). We now live in the digital audio/video server age, where no dinosaurs are to be seen or found rampaging the surface of our planet.
 
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Thanks Bob. So for now we have hardware upscaling to a higher resolution. But just like when you up-convert audio files the software/programs have to "fill in" the information which may lead to incorrect info resulting in artifacts.

I'll take mine plain, thank you!


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No sweat Doug; I simply transcribed what I've read. :)

* And the proof is in the pudding; in real-life with your eyes close to it.
 
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all that and the price is sort of reasonable.
 
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Six grands (MSRP) for a 4K 65" screen is too much in my book; four grands is more in line with the world we live in here in North America.

And there is so much more coming up; Curved screens (2K & 4K), OLED (4K), both already here (but still expensive and not without few issues), and other newer video technologies that are promising, not yet available.

And larger sizes; beyond 65" => 70" - 80" - 90" (and between them) for flat panels. ...4K.
And of course 4K front projectors that can go up to 200" and more. ...Or dual front projectors (4K & 3D) for IMAX home theaters.

And larger prices of course; from $6,000 to $600,000 and even beyond ($1.6 millions).
But Sony has a great 4K/3D front projector for only $25,000 (MSRP) + roughly $4,000 more for the latest upgrade with install included.

And two years from now or so, we'll see some for much less I am certain.
 
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