EV Cars

There are different reasons why someone may be drawn to an EV car. It may be the effortless and impressive acceleration performance of an electric drivetrain, it may be the more simple and perhaps more reliable drivetrain with less moving parts, it may even be the feeling of a “clean” charge from the wall or recharging station instead of gasoline or diesel stink.

One cannot have a serious conversation however about reducing the carbon emissions without looking at the whole picture and reality of where we are with the sources of our electricity and green energy today.

Neil deGrasse Tyson breaks it down nicely. Neil deGrasse Tyson Explains Electric Power - YouTube
 
So the advantages of a green energy future are clear. How we can get there with today’s infrastructure and sources of energy is a totally different matter. If anyone thinks this can be easily accomplished , it is far from it. It would take the equivalent of Global GDP to even come close.

“The Global Price Tag for 100 Percent Renewable Energy: $73 Trillion. A global effort to transition to 100 percent renewable energy by 2050 would cost nations $73 trillion upfront.”

So buy and drive those EV cars if you are thinking you are helping offset the carbon footprint but don’t be disillusioned by the hype either. It’s not that simple.
 

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TheOctopus said:
There are different reasons why someone may be drawn to an EV car. It may be the effortless and impressive acceleration performance of an electric drivetrain, it may be the more simple and perhaps more reliable drivetrain with less moving parts, it may even be the feeling of a “clean” charge from the wall or recharging station instead of gasoline or diesel stink.

One cannot have a serious conversation however about reducing the carbon emissions without looking at the whole picture and reality of where we are with the sources of our electricity and green energy today.

Neil deGrasse Tyson breaks it down nicely. Neil deGrasse Tyson Explains Electric Power - YouTube
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Golfers welcome the extra power and AC .. :)
 
EV is here to accelerate tomorrow. It is going nowhere but up.
Manufacturers are putting their energy and money on efficiency and longer distance, and some EV designs are very attractive to Hollywood actors and actresses audiophiles.
India, China, Russia, USA, Mexico, Brazil, Dubai, ...can make better use of EV than cardiac attack (poison) or carbon monoxide in the lungs (Corona).

Money? Bitcoin, energized by solar panels and wind turbines. The future is not ours (we'll be dead), it's our grandchildren and great grandchildren. Us we're just dust in the wind, a fire in the oven, hashes in a vase engraved with flowers and eagles and mountains and oceans. EV is here to stick, today, tomorrow and after many many more tomorrows, long time after all audioshark members are gone.
Only our grand and great grandchildren will remain to benefit of an EV world...100%.

Nuclear fusion? That too.

But for now, while we're still alive ...

 
The White Gold (Lithium) sources needed for EV batteries with today’s technology.
 

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Perhaps when you turn 75 and take the grandchildren for a ride with grandma in one of the several National Parks in the country side? ...And pick some wild blueberries, or delicious mushrooms. Retire in comfortable style and happy, living the family life in good health.

 
NorthStar said:
EV is here to accelerate tomorrow. It is going nowhere but up.
Manufacturers are putting their energy and money on efficiency and longer distance, and some EV designs are very attractive to Hollywood actors and actresses audiophiles.
India, China, Russia, USA, Mexico, Brazil, Dubai, ...can make better use of EV than cardiac attack (poison) or carbon monoxide in the lungs (Corona).

Money? Bitcoin, energized by solar panels and wind turbines. The future is not ours (we'll be dead), it's our grandchildren and great grandchildren. Us we're just dust in the wind, a fire in the oven, hashes in a vase engraved with flowers and eagles and mountains and oceans. EV is here to stick, today, tomorrow and after many many more tomorrows, long time after all audioshark members are gone.
Only our grand and great grandchildren will remain to benefit of an EV world...100%.

Nuclear fusion? That too.

But for now, while we're still alive ...

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Thats not so Bob , EV is a waste of time, no wait, a complete waste of time and makes no earthly sense , its only here due to current zeitgeist and government arm twisting and of course stolen treasury cash to pay for it . Left to its own devices and normal Business cycles and trades it would be a complete , nonstarter as it was in 1908...
 
a.wayne said:
Thats not so Bob , EV is a waste of time, no wait, a complete waste of time and makes no earthly sense , its only here due to current zeitgeist and government arm twisting and of course stolen treasury cash to pay for it . Left to its own devices and normal Business cycles and trades it would be a complete , nonstarter as it was in 1908...
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The electric propelled vehicles got started way earlier. In the 1830s there was an electric locomotive... The first human carrying electric vehicle, a tricycle for the streets, was powered by the recent invention of the Lead Acid battery in 1881 in France.

Didn't take long to figure out the internal combustion engine and gasoline packed much more energy... :rolleyes:


Gasoline thus has about 100 times the energy density of a lithium-ion battery. This difference in energy density is partially mitigated by the very high efficiency of an electric motor in converting the energy stored in the battery to making the car move: it is typically 60-80 percent efficient.
 
OK , Bite me it wasnt 1908 .. :)


“Yet, it was Henry Ford’s mass-produced Model T that dealt a blow to the electric car. Introduced in 1908, the Model T made gasoline-powered cars widely available and affordable. By 1912, the gasoline car cost only $650, while an electric roadster sold for $1,750. That same year, Charles Kettering introduced the electric starter, eliminating the need for the hand crank and giving rise to more gasoline-powered vehicle sales.”

Or was it , same destiny if left to its own devices ...!
 
Me I just want peace, health, and spend money to have fun. I go EV next, and if someone is not happy on Facebook I don't know him, he's not my friend. :)
It's like the music I like...Opera and Tango. If people don't like I don't care. :D
We're free to like anything we want. And if we don't want we're still free of not buying...no one is forcing no one to the one we married, no one but our own decision. That's romance, that's dedication, focus, commitment, sheer will...John Wick driving his Mustang :safe:
 
NorthStar said:
Me I just want peace, health, and spend money to have fun. I go EV next, and if someone is not happy on Facebook I don't know him, he's not my friend. :)
It's like the music I like...Opera and Tango. If people don't like I don't care. :D
We're free to like anything we want. And if we don't want we're still free of not buying...no one is forcing no one to the one we married, no one but our own decision. That's romance, that's dedication, focus, commitment, sheer will...John Wick driving his Mustang :safe:
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Agree buy EV but do it without the arm twisting and Tax uplift help , imagine the uproar if you got 15K tax incentive to buy ESL loudspeakers ..

:)
 
a.wayne said:
Its gonna fail miserably again , Hybrids make economic sense not full EV IMO ..
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It is full steam ahead for EV. No stopping that train now that the public has been sold that idea of saving the planet. Ultimately the consumer will pay much more for energy/electric as the cost of this "change in infrastructure" is passed on to each one of us. The energy prices have been going up at least 2.8 percent a year lately, sometimes more without making any changes... Let's see what happens in another decade. :rolleyes:
 
a.wayne said:
Agree buy EV but do it without the arm twisting and Tax uplift help , imagine the uproar if you got 15K tax incentive to buy ESL loudspeakers ..

:)
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That's the thing sir A. Wayne; often people imagine a twisted arm. I don't twist arm; I just want to have fun and live free and happy like the mountains touching the high sky 💙
I'm driving a gasoline car right now, my chainsaw uses gas ⛽, my lawnmower too.
Some chainsaws are EC, battery powered and rechargeable, wireless like the Internet.
EL (Electric Lawnmower)?
 
TheOctopus said:
It is full steam ahead for EV. No stopping that train now that the public has been sold that idea of saving the planet. Ultimately the consumer will pay much more for energy/electric as the cost of this "change in infrastructure" is passed on to each one of us. The energy prices have been going up at least 2.8 percent a year lately, sometimes more without making any changes... Let's see what happens in another decade. :rolleyes:
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I agree with you Serge. Gas/oil is going to fight hard for the next fifty years, but it is futile...it won't last forever. It'll stay underground, on the grey market, the scammer's currency, the Earth polluters, the outlaws, the destroyers, the greedy infiltrers, the poisonous bunch, all that broken psychedelic jazz. It is inevitable; EV is unstoppable.
 
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