EtherRegen network switch

Yes, I am using one.
Along with the AfterDark clock and power supply. With all, it seems to be quite an improvement. Biggest surprise was running the fiber to the Lumin, big sound quality upgrade.

ozzy
 
ozzy said:
Yes, I am using one.
Along with the AfterDark clock and power supply. With all, it seems to be quite an improvement. Biggest surprise was running the fiber to the Lumin, big sound quality upgrade.

ozzy
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Ozzy,
Would you think there would be noticeable improvement with the T2?
 
If you decide to get one, please note two things:
1. The recommended connection is router -> side B - EtherREGEN - side A -> Lumin T2 / X1 / U1 (MINI)
2. Please use unshielded CAT-6 cable

A number of Lumin users reported they are using it. As for SQ, I don't have any comment as I've never heard it. We do not endorse third party accessories anyway.
 
ozzy said:
Yes, I am using one.
Along with the AfterDark clock and power supply. With all, it seems to be quite an improvement. Biggest surprise was running the fiber to the Lumin, big sound quality upgrade.

ozzy
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Funny how that works.
 
wklie said:
If you decide to get one, please note two things:
1. The recommended connection is router -> side B - EtherREGEN - side A -> Lumin T2 / X1 / U1 (MINI)
2. Please use unshielded CAT-6 cable

A number of Lumin users reported they are using it. As for SQ, I don't have any comment as I've never heard it. We do not endorse third party accessories anyway.
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Thanks for the advise Peter. I am using a Shunyata Sigma Ethernet cable, which I think is a Cat6, but I think is shielded? Hopefully someone on here can guide me.
 
Audiofan57 said:
Thanks for the advise Peter. I am using a Shunyata Sigma Ethernet cable, which I think is a Cat6, but I think is shielded? Hopefully someone on here can guide me.
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Don't worry about it. I've used Shunyata Venom, Alpha, Sigma and Omega Ethernet cables with my EtherREGEN, and they're all superb within their respective price classes, and outperform all the other Ethernet cables I tested them against (including AQ, WW, Belden, Supra, etc.)

Peter's comment about using unshielded Ethernet is, based, I think, on the fact that shielded Ethernet cables where the shields are connected at both ends can carry high-source leakage impedance current generated by SMPS down the shield. This leakage current can cause increased threshold jitter and phase noise, and the impact of this is audible. Moreover, Ethernet cables are also particularly susceptible to "common mode" noise*, and the CMode filter on Shunyata Alpha level and above Ethernet cables ameliorate this noise factor.

You don't need to worry about these factors with Shunyata Ethernet cables.

* – Common-mode noise: Differential (Normal) Mode Noise and Common Mode Noise－Causes and Measures
 
I think I will stay with the hard-drive directly connected to my X1. Sounds great, and much less complicated, and much less expensive, than a network connection. The only function of the network for me is to control the X1. That works fine with basic Ethernet hardware.

However, it just occurred to me that this might be a streaming discussion, and I have never tried that.
 
Puma Cat said:
Don't worry about it. I've used Shunyata Venom, Alpha, Sigma and Omega Ethernet cables with my EtherREGEN, and they're all superb within their respective price classes, and outperform all the other Ethernet cables I tested them against (including AQ, WW, Belden, Supra, etc.)

Peter's comment about using unshielded Ethernet is, based, I think, on the fact that shielded Ethernet cables where the shields are connected at both ends can carry high-source leakage impedance current generated by SMPS down the shield. This leakage current can cause increased threshold jitter and phase noise, and the impact of this is audible. Moreover, Ethernet cables are also particularly susceptible to "common mode" noise*, and the CMode filter on Shunyata Alpha level and above Ethernet cables ameliorate this noise factor.

You don't need to worry about these factors with Shunyata Ethernet cables.

* – Common-mode noise: Differential (Normal) Mode Noise and Common Mode Noise－Causes and Measures
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Thank you Puma Cat. I do primarily steaming and use a mesh network as my router is upstairs. I assume the EtherRegen will give improvements in this scenario as well.
 
BlueFox said:
I think I will stay with the hard-drive directly connected to my X1. Sounds great, and much less complicated, and much less expensive, than a network connection. The only function of the network for me is to control the X1. That works fine with basic Ethernet hardware.

However, it just occurred to me that this might be a streaming discussion, and I have never tried that.
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If you ever decide to move to NAS to store and play your local music it might also apply
 
Puma Cat said:
...Peter's comment about using unshielded Ethernet is, based, I think, on the fact that shielded Ethernet cables where the shields are connected at both ends can carry high-source leakage impedance current generated by SMPS down the shield.
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Doesn't Uptone Audio also recommend unshielded Ethernet cable into the EtherRegen (A-side)? It's in my manual, although there are also the qualifiers you describe.
 
rbbert said:
Doesn't Uptone Audio also recommend unshielded Ethernet cable into the EtherRegen (A-side)? It's in my manual, although there are also the qualifiers you describe.
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They do, but it's for the same reasons I cited above, to prevent the passage of high-source impedance leakage current. However, a shielded Ethernet cable that is not connected at one end is effectively the same as an unshielded cable because it can't pass current. AQ Ethernet cables are shielded, but connected at only one end for this reason, for example.
 
BlueFox,

I also have a 8TB hard drive connected directed to the Lumin. The Uptone, and etc. is used with the streaming function from Qoboz.

ozzy
 
BlueFox,

I also have a 8TB hard drive connected directed to the Lumin. The Uptone, and etc. is used with the streaming function from Quboz.

ozzy
 
rbbert said:
Doesn't Uptone Audio also recommend unshielded Ethernet cable into the EtherRegen (A-side)? It's in my manual, although there are also the qualifiers you describe.
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Using unshielded network cables solved a few user cases of abnormal network behavior when using EtherREGEN. This is not to say that using shielded network cable must cause a problem - most of the time they work.
 
I have tested EtherRegen with multiple DACs and it has always been an improvement in my system.

I use EtherRegen to connect DACs to my home network, both to play music from my NAS drive and all streaming (Tidal).

Never had any problem with generic Cat.7 and Cat.8 cables (both shielded), although settled on an optical Ethernet from the router to EtherRegen (with TP-Link transmiter) and wired Ethernet from the EtherRegen to whatever DAC I'm using.
 
wklie said:
If you decide to get one, please note two things:
1. The recommended connection is router -> side B - EtherREGEN - side A -> Lumin T2 / X1 / U1 (MINI)
2. Please use unshielded CAT-6 cable

A number of Lumin users reported they are using it. As for SQ, I don't have any comment as I've never heard it. We do not endorse third party accessories anyway.
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Peter, are your saying I connect the Ethernet from the router to side B, and the Lumin to side A? I thought I read somewhere that I should connect the Lumin to side B.
 
router -> side B - EtherREGEN - side A -> Lumin T2 / X1 / U1 (MINI) / M1

router -> side A - EtherREGEN - side B -> Lumin S1 / A1 / T1 / D1
 
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