Does the Audiophile Community Have a Problem?
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Good points, can't argue even though I got 10 years on you. I for one think the '80/20' rule of life bears out just about everywhere......
puroagave
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Yes! aka the Pareto distribution.
Because i don´t agree, i wrote this
https://www.audioshark.org/music-forum-128/nenad-vasilic-bassroom-20590.html#post341537
It doesn't help things when one of the two major remaining print magazines devoted to high-end audio persists in publishing idiotic opinions and questionable "facts". TAS reviewed George Harrison's ATMP 50th Anniversary Edition, and despite dynamic compression of more than 6 dB compared to the 2010 HDTracks release (long since withdrawn from sale) the reviewer claimed that this was how the album was meant to be heard. And the review of the Luxman D-10X, a very good SACD/CD player (with a fair amount of competition in this category), claimed that "it will play virtually any 2-channel audio only disc", despite being unable to play DVD-A, audio only DVD-V or Bluray Audio (all of which have 2-channel audio, some only 2-channel audio). How is that different than any other SACD/CD player? A few years back one of their reviewers claimed that a hi-res album from QoBuz sounded better than the same album from HDTracks; almost immediately a number of posters on the SHForums posted results of AudioDiffMaker comparisons of the 2 filesets (they were bit-for-bit identical, including "timing"), although I am unaware of TAS ever acknowledging this.
Rnrmf
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With regard to the Luxman, DVDA and DVDV discs both have video content and aren't "audio-only." I've already forgotten if all blu ray audio discs have a video menu because I haven't played one in awhile. So while I may concede the absence of blu ray audio which would otherwise be welcome, it does play the newest format of the last 5 years, MQA encoded compact discs. It obviously lacks hdcd decoding capability, though.
Spot on Randy.
Strange, because I have quite a number of DVD-A's without video content (in fact I don't have any with video content) as well as a few audio only DVD-V's (Classic Records released a bunch in the 1990's). Also, while most Naxos Bluray Audio discs are multi-channel, some are 2-channel only (and all are without video content). BD Audio can play directly from the player's remote control, no menu required. Each of those formats has more titles than MQA CD. There are also hundreds (perhaps thousands) of HDCD titles out there.
I'm still unclear on what differentiates the Luxman (in terms of disc format playability) from all the other SACD/CD players on the market. Sorry, I don't consider MQA-CD to be meaningful, especially since anyone who cares about MQA will almost certainly stream the slightly better sounding versions of those albums on Tidal.
CPP
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"" The Internet has added Internet Balls, where people believe it is ok to say things and make comments that they would never do in person face to face....""
Got to agree Randy, seen it happen a lot and what's a hoot is meeting these people later on and after you bring up that conversation, they always come back, "ah, I was just fooling with ya " , or "didn't mean it", or " its the internet", whatever the hell that means.
Got to agree Randy, seen it happen a lot and what's a hoot is meeting these people later on and after you bring up that conversation, they always come back, "ah, I was just fooling with ya " , or "didn't mean it", or " its the internet", whatever the hell that means.
W9TR
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Trouble starts at the intersection of anonymity and boredom. The internet provides both in spades. It started in the days of alt.rec.audio and hasn’t abated since.
NorthStar
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Maybe, just maybe, it's one of the most beautiful hobbies to be in ... the art of high fidelity in music sound reproduction.
Get the system out and bring the Opera singer in.
Get the system out and bring the Opera singer in.
Isn't high-end audio filled with intellects? Sorry, somebody had to ask?
My guess is because we're all over the map on perhaps every last topic including our targets on the wall. Unlike perhaps any other performance-oriented industry. Could it be so much about high-end audio is more subjective than most performance-oriented industries? Sure. Maybe I'm naive but I can't imagine Formula 1 or Top Fuel dragster forums being all over the map on just about every subject. Especially not the target on the wall.
I also think I see a tremendous lack of leadership. More like many sheep without even one shepherd.
In one way I'd compare this forum to systems we call "non-fatiguing". The confluence of the topics, the demographics, and the moderation keep this an easier place to spend time than most internet forums. I don't think that's accidental, there's intent and effort behind it if I had to conjecture.
And the reason there's more old guys into audio is probably the same as most of the people I see driving new Vette's are old: old guys have the time and the spare money to invest in a hobby rather than necessities. Mortgages and autos are paid off, we're not as career invested, etc. We can finally afford, and have the time to actually sit and listen, to the really good systems we wanted since our 20s. Why women aren't as into it, no idea. I've yet to have a wife or g/f who gave a crap about it and most were incredibly unsupportive. The most recent one, I was prepared. I told her the minute she piped up about spending $ on this that it's my damn money I work hard for it and I'll spend it how I want - taboo topic so find something else to pick on (which of course, she did. many somethings.... ).
But bottom line, this forum also has lots of people who not only behave nicely in the sandbox despite differing opinions, but offer their knowledge and experience freely.
And the reason there's more old guys into audio is probably the same as most of the people I see driving new Vette's are old: old guys have the time and the spare money to invest in a hobby rather than necessities. Mortgages and autos are paid off, we're not as career invested, etc. We can finally afford, and have the time to actually sit and listen, to the really good systems we wanted since our 20s. Why women aren't as into it, no idea. I've yet to have a wife or g/f who gave a crap about it and most were incredibly unsupportive. The most recent one, I was prepared. I told her the minute she piped up about spending $ on this that it's my damn money I work hard for it and I'll spend it how I want - taboo topic so find something else to pick on (which of course, she did. many somethings....
).But bottom line, this forum also has lots of people who not only behave nicely in the sandbox despite differing opinions, but offer their knowledge and experience freely.
wait a minute, I'm an old guy and I drive an old Corvette !
sadly though we don't have our hearing like we did in our 20's.......
LOL, they're smarter than us !!
once you get a little older you'll learn to keep the wife and girlfriend separated !
While in most cases I agree there are times when ones opinion runs counter to scientific facts / laws, etc. Sitting at home sipping on our morning coffee, hiding behind our computers typing away gives us subjective power, thankfully I want to believe most here have the objective ability to see the forest for the trees......
CPP
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wait a minute, I'm an old guy and I drive an old Corvette !
sadly though we don't have our hearing like we did in our 20's.......
LOL, they're smarter than us !!
once you get a little older you'll learn to keep the wife and girlfriend separated !
While in most cases I agree there are times when ones opinion runs counter to scientific facts / laws, etc. Sitting at home sipping on our morning coffee, hiding behind our computers typing away gives us subjective power, thankfully I want to believe most here have the objective ability to see the forest for the trees......
I agree 100% with everything you noted. :congrats: