Do you agree?

Mike.......I would agree there is a lot of excellent music from seasoned artists, both young and older, that I appreciate and enjoy listening to all the time. I also agree that as my life has progressed I have grown tired of most pop and top-40 lists, much preferring female jazz vocal, jazz trio's and quartet's, as well as blues rock. Indie rock doesn't do it for me, nor does heavy metal, hip-hop, punk rock, moaning females who can't carry a tune in a bucket and haven't a clue what vibrato means. While I would hope that a certain percentage of new music being released from young artists is engaging, well crafted, and artistically performed by talented musicians, I can't say I have discovered much I would purchase. The notion that somehow I am robbing new artists by purchasing the music I enjoy is just ridiculous, but then the writer has a book he's trying to sell and a topic he's attempting to expand on toward that end. I can't blame the guy for trying.
 
Well, video killed the radio star and streaming kills all others. Just not meaningful to buy mainstream CDs if you get about the same quality via Tidal. Vinyl is different, you don't want all the stuff, just the pearls - listened yesterday to 45 rpm re-issue of Melody Gardot's Worrisome Heart. Plenty good.

Regarding another part of you posting, it might be just me, but moaning females and vibrato knowledge, I would have bet there's a correlation. But that's just the statistician in me :).


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As I look back at my parents and their music taste, Frank Sinatra, Herb Albert, Andy Williams, Bing Crosby, Dean Martin, Peggy Lee, Bennie Goodman, Duke Ellington Louis Armstrong to name a few, my parents would always wonder why I listen to the stuff I listen to which is the same way I feel about my children's music. Punk bands screaming on stage as the guitar and bass players bob their heads up and down while swinging their long hair in an arch around their head, why I just don't get it. Or singers that can't sing standing still while wearing next to nothing. Adele at least can sing standing still.

Of course in my opinion being born in the early 50's the musical groups back in the 60, 70's and early 80's just seem to be more to my liking and that I feel has to do with age and also growing up in the rock and roll era. There will never be another Beatles group, or a Jimmy Hendrix or CSNY, Stones, Who or Zepplin but there is some music today that can be tolerated by the older crowd. Country has gone the route of country rock, older country groups and singers have moved over to Bluegrass, Rock has gone the route of screaming singers, pop is just pop and Rap is crap in my opinion.

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My feeling is that every time somebody buys a reissue, they’re just taking money away from new musicians. They’re thwarting the growth of rock and pop.
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I think there are laws in the US and in the UK and other nations that protect the royalties to an artist, but in most cases the administration cost eats up most of these royalties so little is paid to the artist to include re-issues. In mu opinion wat screwed everything up for the artist is digital downloads which started back in 1999 with Napster.
 
being a younger guy, I tend to try and be open minded to all music which is why I love tidal. but to purchase my vinyl there has to be something special about the whole album for me to want to purchase the album and listen to the thing. I have albums from the 50's to today and all bring me a different type of emotion depending on the mood of the day. if you truly love music the time period really shouldn't matter.
 
I listen to lots of stuff but do tend to like older music. Within that article they mentioned Beyonce. Well just read these lyrics to her song Formation and you will understand why new music for the most part just plain sucks. This is just pure crap and I will take a reissue of Dylan any day over Beyonce even though he is not one of my favs.

[Verse: Beyoncé]
When he fuck me good I take his ass to Red Lobster, cause I slay
When he fuck me good I take his ass to Red Lobster, cause I slay
If he hit it right, I might take him on a flight on my chopper, cause I slay
Drop him off at the mall, let him buy some J's, let him shop up, cause I slay
I might get your song played on the radio station, cause I slay
I might get your song played on the radio station, cause I slay
You just might be a black Bill Gates in the making, cause I slay
I just might be a black Bill Gates in the making
 
And there you have it folks. New music in a nutshell. Being married to the ex-crack dealer Shawn Corey Carter, better known by his stage name Jay Z, those lyrics are not surprising. Will I listen to or support this crap? Hell no!
 
Double-D said:
And there you have it folks. New music in a nutshell. Being married to the ex-crack dealer Shawn Corey Carter, known by his stage name Jay Z, those lyrics are not surprising. Will I listen to or support this crap? Hell no!
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And it had no place during the super bowl or any other prime time TV show. And for all the people claiming she is a Role Model, well nuff said.
 
This is a fascinating topic. It's a question of aesthetics. The term "good" is much too broad and too connected to what the person really means, which is "I like..."

Aesthetics, the study of artfulness and beauty, usually falls in the camp that Art doesn't get better or worse it only changes. Can Picasso's d'avignon painting be better than Warhol's Marilyn painting? Can Tosca actually be proven conclusively to be better than Love Supreme?

The only way you're gonna win that argument is if you firmly establish criteria like originality or musicianship, or compositional inventiveness. But then you have the problem of defining the terms and standards.

Bottom line: it's theoretical at best and probably silly at worst. While the music I love most is from the 60s (Coltrane, Coleman, Shepp etc) I'd never claim it was the best.
 
put on the radio or switch on tv for an instand headache.

most stuff from the industry on both radio and tv is imo just trash - and it all will be forgotten very fast.

something positive? yes, diana krall and gregory porter; i really like their music.
 
I was most influenced by the 80's growing up so I naturally gravitate towards every genre prior to the 1990s.

Music today day is a poetic injustice. Granted creativity and originality becomes increasingly more difficult as time goes on. You would think that technology and the Information Age would empower the writer and the songwriter but really it hasn't.
 
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I was most influenced by the 80's growing up so I naturally gravitate towards every genre prior to the 1990s.

Music today day is a poetic injustice. Granted creativity and originality becomes increasingly more difficult as time goes on. You would think that technology and the Information Age would empower the writer and the songwriter but really it hasn't.
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So how does that work? I'm guessing I'm older than you here But my guess it develops a more restrictive view & less actual experience from what you wrote. the new generation ain't got jack on us!
 
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