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How important are they? What should one look for in a good stand? What are you using? How did you system change after you settled on your choice?

P.S. I just want to thank everyone for their willingness to contribute. Already Audioshark has helped me make one big decision about my gear. Good peeps here!
 
Tbadder said:
How important are they? What should one look for in a good stand? What are you using? How did you system change after you settled on your choice?

P.S. I just want to thank everyone for their willingness to contribute. Already Audioshark has helped me make one big decision about my gear. Good peeps here!
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TBadder,

You asked how my system changed after I settled on my choice. I think you are asking about performance. My response is about a different kind of system change. My equipment changed and I was very glad my rack is adjustable. I think that is an essential feature. I anticipate future changes and future shelf-spacing adjustments. I just don't know what they are yet. :D
 
u-sound said:
as for me....they are overrated
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I know what you mean U. I have a sneaking suspicion that my rack isn't doing anything for me but arranging my equipment. I'm not sure if I can hear my component stand, or if I'm even supposed to hear it. Maybe people with incredible stands like Rix Rax, etc. can hear it.

i must say I hear the results of my speaker stand changes clearly. When I went to Sound Anchor stands some extra clarity appeared--granted it wasn't earth shattering but it was noticeable.
 
Dizzie said:
TBadder,

You asked how my system changed after I settled on my choice. I think you are asking about performance. My response is about a different kind of system change. My equipment changed and I was very glad my rack is adjustable. I think that is an essential feature. I anticipate future changes and future shelf-spacing adjustments. I just don't know what they are yet. :D
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Boy oh boy do I agree with you. Flexibility is really important, but do those changes amount to a difference when stuff comes out of the speaker.
 
Tbadder said:
Boy oh boy do I agree with you. Flexibility is really important, but do those changes amount to a difference when stuff comes out of the speaker.
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I made too many other changes at the same time I installed my new rack so I confounded the experiment. But my sense is there was no improvement in performance. Certainly nothing that caught my attention. I have definitely heard more changes (not always for the better) with individual isolation devices. But those are another kettle of worms. :bonkers:
 
Yeah...isolation devices. They scare the heck outta me. I'll buy one...it sounds worse...or still more frustrating "different" and then I don't know, and I feel lost; then the low key depression starts followed by the drinking and the wife leaving and the kids hating me. I just get the shivers over isolation devices. :panic:
 
I do a lot of DIY. So when it came to a rack, I liked the flexibility that the Sanus Archetype provided but wasn't crazy about the shelves. So I ordered the hardware package from Audio Advisor, purchased the threaded rod locally and went about searching for shelf material. The town that I am from was a bustling manufacturing area in its day and I ran across some bulk material that was manufactured here in the 50's and 60's. One was a slab of charcoal grey Laboratory top. And the other was a section of bowling alley. I used the bowling alley (edge glued rock maple) (similar to butcher block) for the top and bottom shelves and made them double wide. I used the Lab top for multiple adjustable shelves in between. I also cut the threaded rod to different length so that I could have a tall single or double wide rack and a shorter set for a low wide rack. Very adjustable, sturdy, heavy, spiked, and functional. The lab top is rather hard (think Corian ETC) and produces a sharper harder audio presentation. Dynamic as all hell but a little shrill. The maple is more organic and somewhat more relaxed. I too have found greater differences with isolation or absorbers ( spikes, sorbathane, cork ETC )under the gear on the rack than the shelf material itself.
Just my personal experience. YRMV.
 
Dizzie said:
I made too many other changes at the same time I installed my new rack so I confounded the experiment. But my sense is there was no improvement in performance. Certainly nothing that caught my attention. I have definitely heard more changes (not always for the better) with individual isolation devices. But those are another kettle of worms. :bonkers:
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What new rack did you purchase?
 
mep said:
Why don't you please tell us about your system that led you to this conclusion?
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over the many years, i used to have the topmodels from the topmanufactures and also the most recomended stands and things like this.
finite-elements, copulare, etc. ......magazines were raving about them, i couldnt hear no difference at all. i can hold my cd-player or preamp in my hand and it sounds the same as on a stand or on the floor.
 
u-sound said:
over the many years, i used to have the topmodels from the topmanufactures and also the most recomended stands and things like this.
finite-elements, copulare, etc. ......magazines were raving about them, i couldnt hear no difference at all. i can hold my cd-player or preamp in my hand and it sounds the same as on a stand or on the floor.
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You mentioned the name of some of the stands, but you didn't mention the components you placed on them that made you feel there was no difference when you put them on a stand.
 
The first decent rack I ever bought was a Michael Green of Room Tunes fame rack. At the time I bought it, it fit my system perfectly even though I didn't care for its looks. However, it did make a difference in sound quality from the rack that preceded it. As time and my system moved on, I gave the rack away and went back to cheap racks like Sanus for instance. I forgot the lesson I learned about how important a rack really is. I was retaught the lesson when I reviewed the Audio Vault USA rack. Mind you I have a dedicated listening room that is very quiet and I do believe my system is of sufficient resolution that I can hear changes in gear fairly easily.
 
u-sound said:
just flew over your review........

You really get a triple bonus when you buy a good rack like the Audio Vault.

lol
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Glad you "flew over" it and are laughing about it. I'm glad I could bring some joy into your life. I stand by every word I said with regards to the "triple bonus." Should you choose to think it's funny is your prerogative. It doesn't change the facts though. You also flew over the facts of your system even though I asked and you don't list your gear so that could help put things in perspective.
 
mep said:
The first decent rack I ever bought was a Michael Green of Room Tunes fame rack. At the time I bought it, it fit my system perfectly even though I didn't care for its looks. However, it did make a difference in sound quality from the rack that preceded it. As time and my system moved on, I gave the rack away and went back to cheap racks like Sanus for instance. I forgot the lesson I learned about how important a rack really is. I was retaught the lesson when I reviewed the Audio Vault USA rack. Mind you I have a dedicated listening room that is very quiet and I do believe my system is of sufficient resolution that I can hear changes in gear fairly easily.
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it is possible that there is a difference and that you can hear it.
i couldnt on many occasions over a very long period.
i can hear differences at many other things............so as for me stands are compared to the real gear not worth to mention
 
I'm a believer in stands, Me and Mike were talked about this last few times. Mike is not believe in it but I do big time.
 
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