Change in analogue sound quality w/new update?

[Audiofan57]

With some DAC, some users reported better SQ with Leedh volume at 9x instead of 100 even if they keep using their preamp volume control. The most likely reason is that the DAC exhibits intersample overs (clipping). In this case, usually setting Leedh volume at 94 (i.e. -3dB) will sound better for some music.

Peter, I am not sure I understand what you are saying. When you say Leedh volume between 90-100. Do you mean the volume setting in the upper right hand corner or the max volume % in the settings?

 

[wklie]

Both achieve the same result, although I originally meant the main volume circle in the upper right hand corner.

 

[MaxH13]

Both achieve the same result, although I originally meant the main volume circle in the upper right hand corner.

Hi Peter,
I am confused.
If I set the max volume to 95 in settings but the volume in the upper corner reads (say) 70 how does this effect the SQ?
Also, if the volume needs to be set at (say) 95 in the upper corner does this mean some folks actually listen at this volume or is it this setting because they use a pre-amp?
I would be grateful for some basic guidance and although there are various Leedh documents I, for one, don’t find them easy to understand.

 

[thingswelike]

Volume and Max volume adjust the same thing.
Actual volume = main volume ring number × Max Volume %. For example: if the Main Volume is 80, but the Max Volume % is 70, then the Actual Volume is 80 × 70% = 56.

We did it like this so that even if you have to set your Max Volume at say 50% you still get the granularity of adjustment that you would expect. If we had made it so that Max Volume simply limited the range on the main volume ring (i.e. you couldn't raise it above 50%), then adjusting the volume by 1, would have been too big a dB change in some systems.

Note that Volume and Max Volume interaction is not only for Leedh - it is for the traditional volume algorithm too. The purpose of Max Volume is to limit the overall output so that an accidental finger-tap can't suddenly overpower speakers.
It's described in our General Settings manual page here:
LUMIN General Settings

With reference to your question about this 94% observation - 1) that means the 'Actual Volume' and 2) that would be with also another volume control in the chain (on their pre-amp). It's something to experiment with rather than a rule. If LUMIN Leedh volume was the only volume control in the chain, then obviously it would be adjusted to taste.

 

[MaxH13]

Volume and Max volume adjust the same thing.
Actual volume = main volume ring number × Max Volume %. For example: if the Main Volume is 80, but the Max Volume % is 70, then the Actual Volume is 80 × 70% = 56.

We did it like this so that even if you have to set your Max Volume at say 50% you still get the granularity of adjustment that you would expect. If we had made it so that Max Volume simply limited the range on the main volume ring (i.e. you couldn't raise it above 50%), then adjusting the volume by 1, would have been too big a dB change in some systems.

Note that Volume and Max Volume interaction is not only for Leedh - it is for the traditional volume algorithm too. The purpose of Max Volume is to limit the overall output so that an accidental finger-tap can't suddenly overpower speakers.
It's described in our General Settings manual page here:
LUMIN General Settings

With reference to your question about this 94% observation - 1) that means the 'Actual Volume' and 2) that would be with also another volume control in the chain (on their pre-amp). It's something to experiment with rather than a rule. If LUMIN Leedh volume was the only volume control in the chain, then obviously it would be adjusted to taste.

Many thanks for this - very much appreciated as I have struggled with this for some time.
As the Lumin is the only volume control in my chain and I could not bear the volume past 70 ( or rather the neighbours could not ) I couldn't see how anyone could get the volume to around 95.
THanks again

 

[Puma Cat]

With some DAC, some users reported better SQ with Leedh volume at 9x instead of 100 even if they keep using their preamp volume control. The most likely reason is that the DAC exhibits intersample overs (clipping). In this case, usually setting Leedh volume at 94 (i.e. -3dB) will sound better for some music.

and...

I thought I was crazy, but a few times I noticed I liked the sound of Leedh volume somewhere between 80-95 more than 100. I thought either, "I'm imagining it", or "there's some odd interaction between amp and X1 I don't understand that causes this".

That's exactly how I use the P1, then I adjust the volume with the preamp.