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That is awesome, the China market certainly has the muscle to pull in the audio big boys, by being so close to HK also helps.
Happening in Singapore now is the 2015 International Sight & Sound Exhibition, which is a disappointment of display of earphones, phone audio gear, digital boxes, video and visual gear that is not really top of the line and very little real HIGH END gear to show for.
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The Valin review of the CH gear has created a lot of buzz.
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madfloyd
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Yeah, that review was puzzling... if the CH precision doesn't have the body of the Soulution, it must really be thin sounding because to my ears Soulution is ultra thin.
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I've never heard Soulution sound anything like what most people would relate to typical tube characteristics. The same goes for CH Precision.
What's very relevant though in relation to the conclusions of this review is the fact that the Soulution 7-series is almost twice the price (in Europe at least) to similar models from CH Precision. The CH Precision C1 (DAC/Pre) and L1 (Pre) are actually closer to the models in the Soulution 5-series rather than the 7-series which Jonathan Valin uses for comparison.
What's very relevant though in relation to the conclusions of this review is the fact that the Soulution 7-series is almost twice the price (in Europe at least) to similar models from CH Precision. The CH Precision C1 (DAC/Pre) and L1 (Pre) are actually closer to the models in the Soulution 5-series rather than the 7-series which Jonathan Valin uses for comparison.
I would be really interested to hear the Soulution 7 series next to CH.
From what I gathered from JV's review, is that he likes CH for some attributes and Soulution for others. This is par for the course at this level of gear IMO and why listener tastes, objectives and system synergies support a variety of brands to choose from. As a overjoyed CH C1/L1 user (no M1 in my future unfortunately) I am as subjective as others about their gear.
In addition to awarding the CH L1/M1 product of the year, Valin has lots of positive things to say about CH in the review.
"On the other hand, the M1/L1 bests the Soulution in resolution, treble extension, and overall control—by enough of a margin to make a sonic difference. Indeed, in these three respects the CH combo is highly reminiscent of Technical Brain’s incredible amp and preamp, which were the highest resolution, highest transparency, and (once again with the right speakers and the right source material) most realistic-sounding electronics I’d had in my system prior to CH Precision. (CH’s patent-pending bias-stabilization circuit—similar in principle to what TB does with its temperature-compensation bias circuit—may be the reason for this sonic similarity.)
Indeed, the CH gear may (repeat, may—I haven’t heard Naoto Kurosawa’s latest iterations) outdo Technical Brain electronics in transparency and resolution thanks to a tonal balance that comes as close to colorlessly neutral as anything I’ve heard, tube or solid-state. Neither slightly darkish like Soulution nor slightly lightish like Technical Brain, the M1 and L1 open a window on the music (at least with vinyl sources, the Audio Consulting Silver Rock Toroidal phonostage, and the Magico M Project/JL Audio Gotham loudspeakers) that seems to take in…everything—simply incredible amounts of blur-free low-level (and high-level) detail.
On the other hand, if you want to hear Dean Martin or the Juilliard Quartet or the Chicago Symphony Orchestra or Ry Cooder and his crew sound so “there” they’ll make you blink—if you want to hear what’s actually on recordings (and how those recordings were miked, engineered, and mastered) reproduced with virtually no editorialization—then you really ought to listen to the M1 and the L1.
I don’t want to hit this point too hard. The CH Precision M1 and L1 are world-class electronics—and, alongside the Soulution Series 7 components, my new solid-state references. Each marque offers a different set of virtues, just as the Magico M Pro and the Raidho D-5 do. On certain days I prefer one to the other, and vice versa. But the bottom line is I wouldn’t want to be without either."
Agreed that Valin hasn't lost his love for Soulution, just that he also seems to love CH. Reviews are often reinforcing for readers but as we know, at this level, personal demos are the way to go. Sure would be nice to be able to try out this top-drawer gear as a reviewer!
From what I gathered from JV's review, is that he likes CH for some attributes and Soulution for others. This is par for the course at this level of gear IMO and why listener tastes, objectives and system synergies support a variety of brands to choose from. As a overjoyed CH C1/L1 user (no M1 in my future unfortunately) I am as subjective as others about their gear.
In addition to awarding the CH L1/M1 product of the year, Valin has lots of positive things to say about CH in the review.
"On the other hand, the M1/L1 bests the Soulution in resolution, treble extension, and overall control—by enough of a margin to make a sonic difference. Indeed, in these three respects the CH combo is highly reminiscent of Technical Brain’s incredible amp and preamp, which were the highest resolution, highest transparency, and (once again with the right speakers and the right source material) most realistic-sounding electronics I’d had in my system prior to CH Precision. (CH’s patent-pending bias-stabilization circuit—similar in principle to what TB does with its temperature-compensation bias circuit—may be the reason for this sonic similarity.)
Indeed, the CH gear may (repeat, may—I haven’t heard Naoto Kurosawa’s latest iterations) outdo Technical Brain electronics in transparency and resolution thanks to a tonal balance that comes as close to colorlessly neutral as anything I’ve heard, tube or solid-state. Neither slightly darkish like Soulution nor slightly lightish like Technical Brain, the M1 and L1 open a window on the music (at least with vinyl sources, the Audio Consulting Silver Rock Toroidal phonostage, and the Magico M Project/JL Audio Gotham loudspeakers) that seems to take in…everything—simply incredible amounts of blur-free low-level (and high-level) detail.
On the other hand, if you want to hear Dean Martin or the Juilliard Quartet or the Chicago Symphony Orchestra or Ry Cooder and his crew sound so “there” they’ll make you blink—if you want to hear what’s actually on recordings (and how those recordings were miked, engineered, and mastered) reproduced with virtually no editorialization—then you really ought to listen to the M1 and the L1.
I don’t want to hit this point too hard. The CH Precision M1 and L1 are world-class electronics—and, alongside the Soulution Series 7 components, my new solid-state references. Each marque offers a different set of virtues, just as the Magico M Pro and the Raidho D-5 do. On certain days I prefer one to the other, and vice versa. But the bottom line is I wouldn’t want to be without either."
Agreed that Valin hasn't lost his love for Soulution, just that he also seems to love CH. Reviews are often reinforcing for readers but as we know, at this level, personal demos are the way to go. Sure would be nice to be able to try out this top-drawer gear as a reviewer!
Dear all,
i listen last week in one shop near my home,in Italy,a demonstration with L1 P1 M1 with
Kronos Sparta,Esoteric Grandioso and Rockport Cygnus
This shop has also that i listened in same configuration different times with my records,
Pass XS and XS 300,Rowland Criterion and 925,Pandora and mephisto stereo,Esoteric grandioso C1 and mono m1,Convergent top line,Dan d'agostino,
but no one sound like CH.Too big was the difference for me in every parameters.
Regads
Gianluigi
i listen last week in one shop near my home,in Italy,a demonstration with L1 P1 M1 with
Kronos Sparta,Esoteric Grandioso and Rockport Cygnus
This shop has also that i listened in same configuration different times with my records,
Pass XS and XS 300,Rowland Criterion and 925,Pandora and mephisto stereo,Esoteric grandioso C1 and mono m1,Convergent top line,Dan d'agostino,
but no one sound like CH.Too big was the difference for me in every parameters.
Regads
Gianluigi