Cable Lifters/Risers Options.

Byron,

Last one, but I find this amazing............, I mean not a tube component in sight, but O.M.G. what a sound:

Naim Active System with DBL Speakers - YouTube

He has an ear, no doubt about it in my mind, and being an ex-Naimee, his electronics and those DBL's are hitting all the right notes.

His audio journey has been an interesting one.


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His audio journey has been an interesting one.


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Good evening Mike,

It certainly has, but after all is said and done, it must be nice being like him, and a few others here, but I'm not mad at you, like I tell my close friend Byron all the time " spent it ", as we can't take it with us.
 
No doubt!

Byron........, Byron.........., Byron.

You're turning into another RGA on me?.

Man with this avatar, my little Brotha?, ........, I now know that I'd never invite you to the Detroit area, if the Brothas saw this. It would be a wrap.



Hahahahahahahahaha........., got ya.
 
Naw no RGA here! Some of the guys here got sexy chicks in their avatars.....Got keep a little excitement going...I believe RGA has other issues going on.
 
As many others have noted I used ones like this but cannot say I hear any benefit. I do know the cables look better on them and it is easier to separate different cables from one another.
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Hello fellow music lovers,

As I've learned a great deal about the importance of AC Outlets and Power/Noise Filtering, thanks to Mike, as well as speaker/room setup, thanks to kiwi ( Ralph ), and isolation devices/platforms, thanks to Nelson.

Yet, the one area that I've not covered is the one regarding cable lifters/risers, and can only imagine that quite a few of you've your tales to share, and I'm looking forward to learning about which options are worth investing in?, as I'm aware of there are ones from the likes of Cardas Audio - Shunyata Research - Audio Revive - Isoclean Power - Cable Elevators and of late the ones pooping up from CA Electronics, if I've missed any?, please fill me in on what to look/listen for in pursing these, and no, I'd like something a tad bit more advanced then those made by Mapleshade.

I'm all ears, and am open-minded enough to except all truths on said matter.

Please advise, and thanks for your responses in advance.

I have the ayre wood blocks which are made by Cardas I also have two four footed demons in the house that would not play with a wood block unless you put it under a cable then it is save the block from the cable time. As to sound some help not a lot I have heard it said you will hear more improvement lifting off carpet than bare floors as their is more static in carpet kind sound right not sure it is true.

Sort like one guy buys a power conditioner who lives in the country with fairly clean power and thinks the thing is a waste of money another guy in a industrial area buys it and thinks no system should be with out one. What ever you are adding you have to have the problem the thing was meant to deal with other than the internet only audio blobs for hundreds of dollars those you gotta get.
 
Naw no RGA here! Some of the guys here got sexy chicks in their avatars.....Got keep a little excitement going...I believe RGA has other issues going on.


I knew that would get a response outta you, dude........., you of all people know that I'm new to this humor thing, but I'm trying to laugh a little bit more these days, so forgive me that.

Sonny.............., now we're talking, jazz the final frontier, now that one speaks to my heart.

Peace Mi Brotha.
 
As many others have noted I used ones like this but cannot say I hear any benefit. I do know the cables look better on them and it is easier to separate different cables from one another.
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Hi Jim,

Much thanks to you as well, for chiming in, as it seems there are only a few options worth considering as it stands, and seeming they're both in the $120 price range for 8 of each, I guess I should then try them both.

Once again, it's nice feeling apart of something so special as the collective minds here, and it has taught me that no matter ones education level, we can still learn, if open-minded enough to ask the unknown?.

Thanks again.
 
I have the ayre wood blocks which are made by Cardas I also have two four footed demons in the house that would not play with a wood block unless you put it under a cable then it is save the block from the cable time. As to sound some help not a lot I have heard it said you will hear more improvement lifting off carpet than bare floors as their is more static in carpet kind sound right not sure it is true.

Sort like one guy buys a power conditioner who lives in the country with fairly clean power and thinks the thing is a waste of money another guy in a industrial area buys it and thinks no system should be with out one. What ever you are adding you have to have the problem the thing was meant to deal with other than the internet only audio blobs for hundreds of dollars those you gotta get.

Hi Garth,

Man, I'm so glad to have those demon days behind me, but as it stands ( pun intended ) I'm looking for something to lift my cabling loom off the floor ( carpet in my case), yet can't say I wish to invest over $600 on doing so, as an avid tweaker of sort, I'm very capable of hearing what each added tweak/mod has bought to the table over the years enough to voice my system for the better, as I'm very content with what I own.

Yet, am also aware of the system shortcomings in regards to vibration - smearing of notes and the use of isolation devices which then assist in canceling out said noises or bad vibes, but this one has me sweating bullets, as I'm certain they do make slight differences, yet still find myself just as confused as when I started this post, hence my mentioning it's probably best I try to borrow both.

And lastly, I wish to say thanks to you as well, for coming to my aid, all of you've been very very helpful, and please know that your truths, are appreciated more then you might ever know.
 
I knew that would get a response outta you, dude........., you of all people know that I'm new to this humor thing, but I'm trying to laugh a little bit more these days, so forgive me that.

Sonny.............., now we're talking, jazz the final frontier, now that one speaks to my heart.

Peace Mi Brotha.

I figured you'd relate to that....besides, lock me in a room with a hot, sexy lady and a very nice 2 channel audio rig.....say a set of nice Tenor Hybrids and some Canton Reference 1.2 or TIDAL speaker, well somethings got to give......the hot and sexy has got to go!

In a minute, Mi Bro!
 
Tried the Shunyata V2. Sent them back. They are light & hollow & tip over easily. Designed with carpet in mind. The extrusion finish is inconsistent given the carbon loaded plastic formula. IMO looks cheap like from a $2 shop.

Settled with the cableisolators.com. Reasonably priced. Great consistent finish. I use a combination the large classic ceramic & ESD. The ESD can be double stacked & they are stable. Both work great & they really do make a difference even with timber floors. The Shunyata didn't do anything but the CableIsolators took away grunge & muddiness from the background.

Cables should not rest on carpet as their will be a build up of static along the cable.

That's what I use. You can purchase the large classic ceramic ones at a electrical supply house for just $5 a piece. That's what I did.
 
I figured you'd relate to that....besides, lock me in a room with a hot, sexy lady and a very nice 2 channel audio rig.....say a set of nice Tenor Hybrids and some Canton Reference 1.2 or TIDAL speaker, well somethings got to give......the hot and sexy has got to go!

In a minute, Mi Bro!


Brotha B,

You know it...........,

Maybe I've been married to long?, ( 38 years ), but keep the Audio Porn or components, give me the babe, I'm olde, but I'm not dead, not quite just yet, I'd say. And before anyone says something - my wife knows I talk crap like this, because when all is said and done, we've to go with the ones whom have our backs, correct?..........., Guys!, anybody still there?..........? Guys, come on, I was on,y kidding.
 
That's what I use. You can purchase the large classic ceramic ones at a electrical supply house for just $5 a piece. That's what I did.

Hi George,

I had figured as much, when a friend of mine mentioned them several months ago, and I spotted a lot of them on eBay, I was told the differences were the real ones have their insides filled with some sort of resin, and then have their bottoms sealed.

Weird, how once something gets a designer tag on it, and some secret resonance material hidden inside of it, it become more desirable, but one has to know what's what?, which why I'm here.

Thanks for sharing.
 
I figured you'd relate to that....besides, lock me in a room with a hot, sexy lady and a very nice 2 channel audio rig.....say a set of nice Tenor Hybrids and some Canton Reference 1.2 or TIDAL speaker, well somethings got to give......the hot and sexy has got to go!

In a minute, Mi Bro!

I'm also a Canton lover
I had a Jubilee some months ago
100/100 serial
 
The large ceramic have concentric rings on the underside & a small inner contact point to the floor. This helps to isolate floor born vibration. They are also heavy & have a low centre of gravity & will take the heaviest of cable weight.
 
I use the Shunyata lifters, and I cannot say if there is any audible improvement. Every Shunyata interconnect, power cord and power conditioner I have added has been an obvious improvement, but nothing with the cable elevators. Maybe because they were the last thing added.

After thinking about this, another possible reason why I haven't noticed any difference is that only power cords are on these. The speaker cables are attached to the rack and arch up and down to the speaker, and no interconnects are near the carpet.

The power cords are from the wall to the Triton, from the wall to the left Cyclops, from the wall to the right Cyclops, and from each Cyclops to each amp. Then again this carpet is so old it is probably dead. :)
 
Byron,

If I may?, those appear to be smaller rolls of styrofoam tubing much like the ones you're using, but sealed around instead of with cut outs. But as the eyes are getting olde much like the 56 year old legs, I might be wrong.

Nelson, what's your take?.

Looks like air conditioning tubing foam
 
I used the large ceramic cable elevators for years (and still have a bunch of them in storage). 2 years ago I tried the Shunyata V2 and to my ears the system does sound a bit more right (more focused, more harmonically correct without any tonal shift toward leanness) comparatively.....I use around 30 of them, mostly on the hardwood at the speaker end of my room.

I think that their design reduces resonance with their hard top edge; other cable elevators are soft or broad topped......collect dust and get a bit gummy and require periodic cleaning. cables should not be stressed, but the elevators should present a bit of impedance change from the floor. cables can 'sing' with the music when not dressed in some way.

my comments are for anecdotal information only. I would never make any attempt to defend them.

YMMV.

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