Bug Head, Any Users

Just impossible to keep up with the guy.
Specially if the change is just a nuance in the treble or bass.

Going to sit out for now and watch from the sidelines ...
 
Good idea Nikhil. It would be better paced if Hiroyuki wouldn't put out a new version each time he updates one of the three main components. It almost seems as if unfavourable comments result in a "newer" version appearing more quickly.

Think I'll just wait for more impressions of the betas from 7 on up from others on the Bughead forum before I commit to doing comparisons.

By the way, Beta 10 is out, and only ReWrite Data is updated.
 
Regardless of the "inconvenience" of a frequent upgrade cycle, the guy is a genius. Getting something out there that has captured the attention of audio enthusiasts all over the world speaks volumes of the player. I just can't get over how much you get with this player.

Steep learning curve to begin with but nothing really that bad considering some of us grew up playing around with MS DOS and mainframe terminals.
 
I agree with your comments about Hiroyuki and the player. And rather amazingly, he has made it available to all gratis. And I see that beta 11 has appeared.

Some of us even started out with punch cards, Fortran, and card readers.
 
For anyone just getting to this thread, if you're interested in trying Bughead, the latest update, 6.04 beta 13, is excellent.

You can find the URL for the site in the user guide mentioned in post #11.

Cheers,

Bernie
 
Have just installed 6.40 last night and listened quite extensively.
Meanwhile 6.42 is out already!

I have question - what do the HRK and ACAC scripts do?
I know that RWD defrags files to avoid deterministic jitter.
Just curious on what the other two scripts do for playback.
 
I have been using BH since the summer. Awesome player, blows JR and HQ player out of the water in terms of sound quality. I can't even listen to JR unless I use it with older poorly recorded music as it is much less detailed and resolving. My favorite version is still 5.31. The newer versions have too much treble and sound sibilant in my system unless I up convert to 4 or 8x. The newer versions, especially the 6. series have much more detail. I will probably go back to 5.31 for its smooth sound.
 
Mechnutt,

I agree with you that it definitely gives the better players a run for the money. In fact, just a few days ago I used BHE to listen to an old album that sounds thin - have to say that BHE fleshed it out beautifully literally adding some meat to the bones. Can't say it fixed everything but definitely made the album much more listenable.

I'm running 6.45 now. I've given up comparing the sound of each version now but the last version I had 6.42 was very resource hungry. Took a really long time to process the music in comparison to the earlier versions. Thanks for the info on 5.31 - will have to find the installation file from somewhere.

Regards.
 
Nikhil,

Dragged this info out of the JPLAY BH thread. Not all that helpful but it's all I could find:

ACAC: On the Bug Head Facebook page Hiroyuki wrote that the tool initializes the cores in order to remove their internal jitter during the execution of a process.

HRK: Also from the Bug Head Facebook page - Hyper Regenerator runs ACAC 900 x per hour (once every 4 seconds).

Cheers,

Bernie
 
Nikhil said:
Mechnutt,

I agree with you that it definitely gives the better players a run for the money. In fact, just a few days ago I used BHE to listen to an old album that sounds thin - have to say that BHE fleshed it out beautifully literally adding some meat to the bones. Can't say it fixed everything but definitely made the album much more listenable.

I'm running 6.45 now. I've given up comparing the sound of each version now but the last version I had 6.42 was very resource hungry. Took a really long time to process the music in comparison to the earlier versions. Thanks for the info on 5.31 - will have to find the installation file from somewhere.

Regards.
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If you want 5.31, let me know and I can send it to you.
 
Bug Head development may have ended. Hiroyuki Yokota has shut down his One Drive page (where the latest Bug Head versions were released) and His Bug Head Technology Facebook page. Translated from his personal Facebook page: "OneDrive - has been deleted Bug head and Bug head technology. Thank you very much until now."

Something similar happened once before, but he subsequently reopened the One Drive account and reinitiated development. Time will tell.
 
Downloaded 6.48 this morning but did not listen extensively.
Will spend a little more time later this evening.

From what I could see he has updated RW to 2.0 and ACAC to 7.6 as well.
 
I've just spent some time listening to 6.48.
Sounded a little muddled and bass had a little bloat.

This is of course in comparison to 6.45 which I have now moved back to.

BTW how does one uninstall these newer versions? I had to delete the folder in Program Files and then delete the registry entry. Earlier versions of BHE were listed in the Control Panel list of Installed Programs which made it easier to uninstall.

Regards.
 
I haven't used BH myself, but it appears to me as if there are WAY too many updates going on. I find it frustrating when software I'm using changes versions so frequently. I think they'd be better served by only issuing new releases when there are significant changes made. No more than once per month would be reasonable, but it seems to me I read about new BH releases being made several times each week! Users can't even get adjusted to the sound of one version before another one is released as the latest and greatest.
 
Nikhil said:
I've just spent some time listening to 6.48.
Sounded a little muddled and bass had a little bloat.

This is of course in comparison to 6.45 which I have now moved back to.

BTW how does one uninstall these newer versions? I had to delete the folder in Program Files and then delete the registry entry. Earlier versions of BHE were listed in the Control Panel list of Installed Programs which made it easier to uninstall.

Regards.
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Hi Nikhil,

I think we are reaching the point where perceived Bug head SQ differences often reflect individual preferences and system differences. The good thing is that among recent versions there is bound to be something that is reasonably satisfying, given that there is no "perfect" player.

To uninstall the latest version of Bug head, simply run the original installation executable again. It will determine that the same version is already installed, skip the language window and switch to a window with three options, one of which is "Remove". Just click on that and you're done.

Cheers,

Bernie
 
audio.bill said:
I haven't used BH myself, but it appears to me as if there are WAY too many updates going on. I find it frustrating when software I'm using changes versions so frequently. I think they'd be better served by only issuing new releases when there are significant changes made. No more than once per month would be reasonable, but it seems to me I read about new BH releases being made several times each week! Users can't even get adjusted to the sound of one version before another one is released as the latest and greatest.
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Hi audio.bill,

I too would like to see newer versions released less frequently but with more significant changes.

However, I (and others) have found that not all new releases are "the latest and greatest". A number of older versions are still held as favorites by many users.

Interestingly, I've noted that a number of negative comments about the latest release often results in a newer version appearing more rapidly, usually with an attempt made to address the problem responsible for the negative comments. If, on the other hand, more positive comments are made there is a longer interval between releases. Since perceived SQ is highly dependent on one's subjective preferences and one's system, it may be that Hiroyuki is using the audience as a barometer to assess views other than his own, which will of necessity be based on his system and preferences. This type of approach is not restricted to Bug Head. Development of other well-known programs can sometimes involve a large number of releases, each with a small number of changes. After all, JRiver Media Center 21 is now up to version 48 and it's only February.

Given that Bug Head is freeware (an important point to bear in mind), there is great support for users on the JPLAY forum, and it sounds pretty darn good (at least to my ears), I've decided it's worth developing a strategy to deal with the frequency of new releases. I assume that if we had to pay for it, then market dictates would influence the rate of release. That said, we seem to have reached the point where most users can find a version that works well with their system and suits their taste. Whether they stick with that version or check out newer releases is a matter of choice.

Cheers,

Bernie
 
Well said Bernie! You've captured the essence of the Bughead "experience" really well.

audio.bill there I agree with you on the constant updates. It's a strange thing this software player. It's got such a long learning curve but it sings too sweetly for enthusiasm to be dampened by a few minor inconveniences. Just a few days ago I found myself defending Bughead on another forum when a couple of folks decided to poke fun at the quirkiness of the player especially the developer's seemingly strange recommendations for things like "software burn in" etc. It has been a strange experience to say the least.

However, in terms of sound quality this player goes toe to toe with the best - bar none.

Regards.
 
It looks like the days of frequent Bug head releases may be over as Bug head development may have reached the end. Franran has reported on the JPLAY forum that Hiroyuki feels he has obtained as much as he can from Bug head, and has now initiated a new project: Bug head Lite aimed at lower powered laptops and tablets (i3 type processors) with up to 8 Gb RAM.

Versions prior to 6.48 can be obtained at a Russian archive site (http://rsload.net/so...ad-emperor.html). You have to work your way through to find the desired older version, as this also is a standard thread-type site with a lot of "chat". Most of the versions there are portable, not installation, versions. So you need only download and copy the folder to your preferred location and then open the Infinityblade.exe file via your method of choice.

It appears there will be plenty of time to do some comparing to select the version that best fits your system and your ears.

Cheers, and enjoy the music,

Bernie
 
I doubt that we have seen the last of new versions of BH Infinity Blade SQ. He quit with new versions for a while and then started back up. You can run Infinity Blade SQ with a fast I3 and 4 gigs of ram. I tried it on my older laptop with an I3 that is clocked at 2.4ghz and 4gb or ram. You can't run some of the more taxing settings though. The non SQ versions run fine. I currently use a laptop with 5th gen I7 that is only a dual core and 16gigs of ram and still have an occasional lock up with some of the 8x upsampling depending upon the other settings even with running the Fidelizer program.
 
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