Bryston Update Questions

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DR95497

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As a prospective purchaser of Bryston products, I parenthetically,might mention that I really appreciate the informative, relaxed style of this particular site and the participation of James Tanner.

I wonder when Bryston, as an advocate of USB use, is going to migrate from the outdated USB 2.0 to at least USB 3.0 in its various pieces, specifically the BDP and BDA 2's and also the new BOT?

I also am curious about the current status of the controlling network or wifi apps. The original Stereophile account of Bryston's control apps was somewhat chilling. No one expects Solos or even Olive, but what's in store. Does Jriver work with Bryston machines?

Lastly, can one get OEM installation of an SSD into the thoughtfully designed space and cables of the BDP-2

Thanks.
 
I use MPod with my BDP-1 and it works great. You can create play lists and view cover art. It's very simple to download and use with iPhone or iPad.
 
I use MPad. Works very well.

I agree, James is a terrific person. Excellent customer service.
 
HI DR and Welcome

The BDP uses USB to bring data from an external drive to the internal memory for reformatting and passing on to the DAC.

USB 1 Full Speed does not quite have the throughput (12 MBps) to handle high resolution files.

USB 2 High Speed has a throughput of 480 Mbps which is more than ten times what is necessary to handle high resolution files. USB3 can pass even more data (3 Gbps) but brings requirements and system overhead that will not improve the sound and will increase the power requirements.

USB3 extends from a PCI express interface. Changing over to a system board that would support USB3 brings heat problems, requirements for a much larger power supply and a number of other aspects which will change the product completely but not improve the audio chain and can potentially degrade it.

Drives have SATA interfaces. External drives use internal hardware to convert them to USB, Firewire or eSATA. While it may make a difference loading data onto the drive, for playback the throughput requirements are much lower so the interface won’t change the playback properties.

The BDP allows transfer of files over Ethernet using Samba. The USB 2.0 interface is plenty fast enough to not impede this operation. The only thing to be gained with the USB 3.0 interface is faster transfer of files when connected to a Windows computer with a 3.0 port. For our use in music playback 2.0 provides more than enough speed to quickly fill the buffer so play can begin.

The reality is that for our purpose the existing USB 2.0 interface does the job very well. USB 3.0 devices can be used with a 2.0 interface, there is no reason to spend the extra money on 3. Any of the currently available low cost USB 2.0 enclosures will work just fine with any of the currently available SATA drives on the market. To keep things real simple I even recommend use of FAT32 formatting of the HDD. FAT32 is cross platform compatible and hard to imagine support for it ever going away on any platform due to it being ubiquitous.

As always, the simple solution that does the job is best. There are much more important things for a customer to pay attention to in the pursuit of great sound for music playback in the home than concern over the latest thing from the computer industry.

James
 
James,

Thank you so much for your well thought out answer. It makes perfect sense to me.
 
James Tanner - Bryston said:
The BDP allows transfer of files over Ethernet using Samba. The USB 2.0 interface is plenty fast enough to not impede this operation. The only thing to be gained with the USB 3.0 interface is faster transfer of files when connected to a Windows computer with a 3.0 port. For our use in music playback 2.0 provides more than enough speed to quickly fill the buffer so play can begin. As always, the simple solution that does the job is best. There are much more important things for a customer to pay attention to in the pursuit of great sound for music playback in the home than concern over the latest thing from the computer industry.

James
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My own "transition" interest is moving a mere 400 Gigs of music from either my Windows 8 computer backup or my old Olive onto an internal Samsung 500 SSD inside a Bryston BDP2 or BOT1 (for future analog transfer with a BDA2 to amps). I had hoped to use an outside router's Wifi to an Android KitKat smart phone or Jelly Bean pad device with some control app, similar to Jriver, directing the SSD inside the Bryston BDP2 or BOT1. Obviously I could spring for an Apple device for the outside app if necessary. I will have to check out MPOD or MPAD.

James, you definitely answered my USB question. Who can answer the SSD issue? I would prefer a Bryston SSD solution over a third party SSD installation.

I am in search of simple leading edge tech, not complex bleeding edge tech. Fine music is the goal, not fancy machines.

My apologies in advance if these questions are naive.

Thanks!
 
DR95497 said:
My own "transition" interest is moving a mere 400 Gigs of music from either my Windows 8 computer backup or my old Olive onto an internal Samsung 500 SSD inside a Bryston BDP2 or BOT1 (for future analog transfer with a BDA2 to amps). I had hoped to use an outside router's Wifi to an Android KitKat smart phone or Jelly Bean pad device with some control app, similar to Jriver, directing the SSD inside the Bryston BDP2 or BOT1. Obviously I could spring for an Apple device for the outside app if necessary. I will have to check out MPOD or MPAD.

James, you definitely answered my USB question. Who can answer the SSD issue? I would prefer a Bryston SSD solution over a third party SSD installation.

I am in search of simple leading edge tech, not complex bleeding edge tech. Fine music is the goal, not fancy machines.

My apologies in advance if these questions are naive.

Thanks!
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No naive questions just naive answers - LOL

No jriver does not work with the BDP as it is a dedicated Lynx operating system and only works with Apps etc design with open source Lynx operating systems. Jriver, Media Monkey and such are Windows and MAC based.

If you have 400GB of data I would load it onto the USB internal drive from your computer and then install it in the BDP-2. The cable and mounting screws are provided in the BDp-2.

james
 
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