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The comment above describing the realistic sound of cymbals and their shimmer is most promising to me, since I find that often to be the biggest shortcoming of digital source reproduction when compared to analog playback.
Bryston BDA-3 Announced!
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Hi James
I demoed the BDA-3 with the BDP-2, connected to Kurt’s SP-3, and 4B,
I didn’t think any of us would hear the difference between the SP-3 connection internal D/AC and the optional exteranl BDA-3, but wholly shit, it was immediately apparent, even with the delay in rewiring.
Kurt is the one who blurted out that he heard the difference in the bass, deeper & more powerful, plus on the highs , plus a wider sound stage!
His response this morning after the demo yesterday.
Wayne.
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Wayne.. That was a really great demo. Fantastic (Bryston) products for sure.
Can you give me prices for both a BDP-2 Digital Player and BDA3 DAC Silver 19" rack or shelf mount, for our demo rack?
Need to be able to do A/B for clients to review. That's the only way to sell them.
Thanks!
Kurt Schlossberg
I demoed the BDA-3 with the BDP-2, connected to Kurt’s SP-3, and 4B,
I didn’t think any of us would hear the difference between the SP-3 connection internal D/AC and the optional exteranl BDA-3, but wholly shit, it was immediately apparent, even with the delay in rewiring.
Kurt is the one who blurted out that he heard the difference in the bass, deeper & more powerful, plus on the highs , plus a wider sound stage!
His response this morning after the demo yesterday.
Wayne.
Audtek Sales
Wayne.. That was a really great demo. Fantastic (Bryston) products for sure.
Can you give me prices for both a BDP-2 Digital Player and BDA3 DAC Silver 19" rack or shelf mount, for our demo rack?
Need to be able to do A/B for clients to review. That's the only way to sell them.
Thanks!
Kurt Schlossberg
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No digital setup beats a good analoge setup.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn GT-I9505 met Tapatalk
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mazzialk - Welcome to AudioShark! My experience mirrors yours, but I continue to audition new digital hardware in hopes of finding the holy grail some day! :audiophile:
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Thank u.
I dont even know from wich country audio shark forum is .lol I ended up here via Tapatalk. Lol
Like u I also did my home work with da converters.
Going from cheap DACs to mid priced and end in up with the KONDO KSL DAC. I dont think that it wil get better than that my friend.
but stil it didn't goose bump me like my analoge stuff did..Now im Playing with the Resonessence Labs invicta and thats pretty good.
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Hi James
For those of us in the audio biz, it’s always a balance between marketing and reality.
When your guy came to my office to demo the BDP player and new BDA-3 DAC, I asked him to A/B the signal with my current reference system.
Quite an apparent difference, even with a minute or so between swapping the cables. Now my set up is way more extreme than most people, even in that rarified air. As I have a Balance Audio Tech amp, and a pair of Avante Gardes.
But what a pleasant surprise. A bit of an eye opener as I have been listening pretty consistently through my current system and that has been very reference grade to my ears.
Didn’t know there was anywhere to go that was further!
Hope you are well, and happy holidays
Kurt
For those of us in the audio biz, it’s always a balance between marketing and reality.
When your guy came to my office to demo the BDP player and new BDA-3 DAC, I asked him to A/B the signal with my current reference system.
Quite an apparent difference, even with a minute or so between swapping the cables. Now my set up is way more extreme than most people, even in that rarified air. As I have a Balance Audio Tech amp, and a pair of Avante Gardes.
But what a pleasant surprise. A bit of an eye opener as I have been listening pretty consistently through my current system and that has been very reference grade to my ears.
Didn’t know there was anywhere to go that was further!
Hope you are well, and happy holidays
Kurt
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Thanks for considering us - much appreciated.
The Distributor has some on order so hopefully you will be able to hear one soon.
The BDA3 has had a huge launch and is probably our most successful product out of the gate to date
James
The Distributor has some on order so hopefully you will be able to hear one soon.
The BDA3 has had a huge launch and is probably our most successful product out of the gate to date
James
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Here was my bda1 @ 3000 euro dac beside my KONDO KSL @ 36900 euro.- lol
I sold the kondo and kept the Bda1 . Lol I just didn't find the the sound different worth the "extra" buks.
In the setting that I had at that times (1 year ago) the bda1 did greate job of keeping me satisfied even against an 12x more expensive kondo..
I also put the bda 1 against a wyerd for sound dac and the New moon dac that a friend of mine brought with him when he wanted to buy my old kharma 3.2 s.
Hè ended up selling the wyerd for sound and beging me to sell the bda1 to him and I did it at the end.
So cant wait to hear the New bda3 ones and see how they do against the Resonessence Labs invicta that I am using currentley.
Good job there @ bryston , ive had few gears of yours and at anny price it never dissapointed me...
Also the guarantie u offer is unparalleled ..
Cheers.
I sold the kondo and kept the Bda1 . Lol I just didn't find the the sound different worth the "extra" buks.
In the setting that I had at that times (1 year ago) the bda1 did greate job of keeping me satisfied even against an 12x more expensive kondo..
I also put the bda 1 against a wyerd for sound dac and the New moon dac that a friend of mine brought with him when he wanted to buy my old kharma 3.2 s.
Hè ended up selling the wyerd for sound and beging me to sell the bda1 to him and I did it at the end.
So cant wait to hear the New bda3 ones and see how they do against the Resonessence Labs invicta that I am using currentley.
Good job there @ bryston , ive had few gears of yours and at anny price it never dissapointed me...
Also the guarantie u offer is unparalleled ..
Cheers.
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HI James
Been slammed with business; so this was the first chance I had to listen to my new BDA-3.
A marked improvement over the BDA-2, I mean really noticeable. I put it temporarily in my all Esoteric rig, feeding it from an Olive 04 since it was near by.
The sound itself is much more analog, and flows effortlessly. I also note a broader soundstage. Combined with all the inputs, and super high reliability.
Bryston has hit it out of the park... again!
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Been slammed with business; so this was the first chance I had to listen to my new BDA-3.
A marked improvement over the BDA-2, I mean really noticeable. I put it temporarily in my all Esoteric rig, feeding it from an Olive 04 since it was near by.
The sound itself is much more analog, and flows effortlessly. I also note a broader soundstage. Combined with all the inputs, and super high reliability.
Bryston has hit it out of the park... again!
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Hi James,
I just received the Bryston BDA3 DAC. It is doing well for USB from my few hours of listing, I think my waiting for almost a year has paid-off.
I can listen to SACD from my blu ray transport and BDA3.
The sound is superb!
Well done Bryston Team!
Warmest regards,
Warut
Austria
I just received the Bryston BDA3 DAC. It is doing well for USB from my few hours of listing, I think my waiting for almost a year has paid-off.
I can listen to SACD from my blu ray transport and BDA3.
The sound is superb!
Well done Bryston Team!
Warmest regards,
Warut
Austria
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OnTheFly
I owned a BDA-1 a long time ago but then bought a SP3 so moved it on. I had another DAC recommended to me but it was 'how much!'.
I'm currently listening to The War of The Worlds. Not sure Richard Burton has ever sounded this good.
It also sounds great with regular CD's, though I had forgot what a bind it is to keep getting up to swap discs.
OnTheFly
I owned a BDA-1 a long time ago but then bought a SP3 so moved it on. I had another DAC recommended to me but it was 'how much!'.
I'm currently listening to The War of The Worlds. Not sure Richard Burton has ever sounded this good.
It also sounds great with regular CD's, though I had forgot what a bind it is to keep getting up to swap discs.
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patrickm
Re: BDA-3 DAC
Picked up a BDA-3 yesterday, having fun listening to it today.
My prior DAC was a BDA-1 + audiophilleo2 combo... functionally almost everything I wanted and fantastic sound. The BDA-3 has everything I want. Spent some time last night farting around with JRiver 21, mostly setting and experimenting with DSD options.
Very happy with the purchase and I'll keep the BDA-1 combo for use with my upstairs system. I'd rate the sound of the BDA-1 as ∞ and the BDA-3 as [∞+1]. I was going to pick up a BDA-2 a while ago but wanted native DSD support, glad I waited.
Re: BDA-3 DAC
Picked up a BDA-3 yesterday, having fun listening to it today.
My prior DAC was a BDA-1 + audiophilleo2 combo... functionally almost everything I wanted and fantastic sound. The BDA-3 has everything I want. Spent some time last night farting around with JRiver 21, mostly setting and experimenting with DSD options.
Very happy with the purchase and I'll keep the BDA-1 combo for use with my upstairs system. I'd rate the sound of the BDA-1 as ∞ and the BDA-3 as [∞+1]. I was going to pick up a BDA-2 a while ago but wanted native DSD support, glad I waited.
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MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston BDA-3 DAC
January 2016
CUSTOMER FEEDBACK:
Bryston BDA-3 DAC Serial # 000010 - Early Impressions
After spending many enjoyable hours listening to downloaded music (PCM and DSD) and ripped CD's I'm pleased to say the BDA-3 paired with my BDP-2 is, to my ears, a very significant advance in sound quality over my previously owned Bryston BDA-1 DAC also paired with my BDP-2.
The year long wait after ordering the BDA-3 was well worthwhile as I hear significant improvements in all areas and no criticisms other than a clutter of HDMI inputs that I probably will never use. I noticed a lower output level over the BDA-1 which simply meant having to use higher volume settings than in the past. Hopefully, Bryston will come out with a more complete specification to include the BDA-3 output level as they did with the BDA-1.
The most important improvement for me is a more relaxed sound quality but certainly not at the expense of detail. In fact, to use the much used cliché, I have been hearing detail on downloads and ripped CD's that I had not previously noticed. Despite all the extra detail I was surprised to find less sibilance on recordings such as Cowboy Junkies "The Trinity Session". Bass was deep and forceful and the soundstage in my room was somewhat wider than the BDA-1 but the depth was much deeper which made symphony recordings very realistic.
There was plenty to evaluate on the BDA-3 like listening to DSD downloads for the first time and comparing the USB and AES/EBU inputs. For me I could live with either the USB or the AES/EBU input but I did have a slight preference for the AES/EBU but I would not want to try and describe why! It was great to have the opportunity to listen to DSD downloads but overall I did not feel there were repeatable improvements in sound quality over PCM 192/24 to justify the extra download time and storage space not to mention the extra cost. Sometimes I actually thought I preferred PCM 96/24 over DSD on some Beethoven piano concertos and Mozart violin concertos where I could compare. DSD sometimes seemed to have a slight edginess that was occasionally noticeable for PCM downloads on my BDA-1 but the new BDA-3 on PCM downloads never gave rise to any edginess whatsoever.
I've had some late nights listening to all the improvements the BDA-3 is making to playback of my music collection. I'm grateful for the opportunity to listen to DSD and PCM downloads but for me I believe I will spend my money on PCM downloads only and replay using the AES/EBU input on the BDA-3.
For anyone owning Bryston's BDA-1, or any other quality DAC, I think a listen to this latest BDA-3 DAC is a must.
It is amazing how much improvement has evolved since the BDA-1 was introduced by Bryston about 6 years ago.
Thanks
Roger
SUBJECT: Bryston BDA-3 DAC
January 2016
CUSTOMER FEEDBACK:
Bryston BDA-3 DAC Serial # 000010 - Early Impressions
After spending many enjoyable hours listening to downloaded music (PCM and DSD) and ripped CD's I'm pleased to say the BDA-3 paired with my BDP-2 is, to my ears, a very significant advance in sound quality over my previously owned Bryston BDA-1 DAC also paired with my BDP-2.
The year long wait after ordering the BDA-3 was well worthwhile as I hear significant improvements in all areas and no criticisms other than a clutter of HDMI inputs that I probably will never use. I noticed a lower output level over the BDA-1 which simply meant having to use higher volume settings than in the past. Hopefully, Bryston will come out with a more complete specification to include the BDA-3 output level as they did with the BDA-1.
The most important improvement for me is a more relaxed sound quality but certainly not at the expense of detail. In fact, to use the much used cliché, I have been hearing detail on downloads and ripped CD's that I had not previously noticed. Despite all the extra detail I was surprised to find less sibilance on recordings such as Cowboy Junkies "The Trinity Session". Bass was deep and forceful and the soundstage in my room was somewhat wider than the BDA-1 but the depth was much deeper which made symphony recordings very realistic.
There was plenty to evaluate on the BDA-3 like listening to DSD downloads for the first time and comparing the USB and AES/EBU inputs. For me I could live with either the USB or the AES/EBU input but I did have a slight preference for the AES/EBU but I would not want to try and describe why! It was great to have the opportunity to listen to DSD downloads but overall I did not feel there were repeatable improvements in sound quality over PCM 192/24 to justify the extra download time and storage space not to mention the extra cost. Sometimes I actually thought I preferred PCM 96/24 over DSD on some Beethoven piano concertos and Mozart violin concertos where I could compare. DSD sometimes seemed to have a slight edginess that was occasionally noticeable for PCM downloads on my BDA-1 but the new BDA-3 on PCM downloads never gave rise to any edginess whatsoever.
I've had some late nights listening to all the improvements the BDA-3 is making to playback of my music collection. I'm grateful for the opportunity to listen to DSD and PCM downloads but for me I believe I will spend my money on PCM downloads only and replay using the AES/EBU input on the BDA-3.
For anyone owning Bryston's BDA-1, or any other quality DAC, I think a listen to this latest BDA-3 DAC is a must.
It is amazing how much improvement has evolved since the BDA-1 was introduced by Bryston about 6 years ago.
Thanks
Roger
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James - I can't think of another "blue chip" audio company that has done a better job with digital than Bryston. Your BDA-1/BDP-1 combo turned the Mac & DAC thinking upside down to what it is today. Your BDP-2/BDA-3 has done it again. It was great to see you again at CES 2016 and get an overview of these exciting new products. On the analog side, I would like to hear a little more about the BP2/TF2/PS3 combo.
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HI Mike
Thanks - yes the BDP was a very unique product when I first introduced it. I remember sending out the announcement and most of our customers emailed me back - "James What the hell is this and why do I care?"
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You guys had the vision that's for sure. There was no doubting after someone heard it.